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Ministry for Prophecy, Dreams and Visions
D&V List No.1036
2Co 13:1 This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or
three witnesses shall every word be established.
Date: Wednesday 08 December 2004
Topic: Mature witness and addition to dream interpretation
Contents:
* Significant additional interpretation to dream on previous D&V List No.1035
by Dr. Bernie Wade. Forwarded by Prophet Ramona Gregory on 06 Dec. 2004.
* This sure reminds me of the band on the priests forehead that said, "Holiness
unto the Lord." Comment from Carolyn Cook.
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SIGNIFICANT ADDITIONAL INTERPRETATION TO DREAM ON PREVIOUS D&V List No.1035
by Dr. Bernie Wade. Forwarded by Prophet Ramona Gregory on 06 Dec. 2004.
From: Hischosenvessel@aol.com
To: daystar48@optusnet.com.au
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 11:51 PM
Subject: Re: D&V List No.1035
* Leadership and the people will regard NETCO suspiciously from a position
of aloofness. However, the overwhelming witness to the new truth or ministry
from Scripture will be such that the legalistic power of religious traditionalism
will ultimately be removed and NETCO will be embraced. Here, the eyes of their
understanding will be enlightened by the grace and purpose of God. Dream by
Prophet Ramona Gregory and interpretation by Paula Cavu.
Dear Paula,
I want to thank you for letting God use you to bring insight, understanding
and clarity in this concerning this dream. It is word from God for me and prophets
at large to overcome the spirit of intimidation.
I am sending this interpretation by Dr. Bernie Wade as a confirmation. Out
of the mouth of two or three, let every word be established.
Blessings,
Ramona
His comments are as follows............................
I think Paula is correct. I might add this:
I got up one morning and noticed something slightly hindering my
speech, but I didn't look in the mirror to see what it was because it
wasn't severe.
I FIND IT OF NOTE THAT YOU DIDN'T (AT FIRST) FIND THE HINERANCE TO YOUR SPEECH
SEVERE AND THUS DIDN'T LOOK IN THE MIRROR. AS A MESSENGER OF GOD YOUR SPEECH
IS VITAL. LOOKING INTO THE MIRROR (WORD OF GOD) TO SEE WHAT WAS HINDERING IS
CRUCIAL. YET THE HINDERANCE TO YOUR SPEECH HAS COME FROM SUCH AN UNLIKELY SOURCE
THAT YOU DON'T FEEL IT IS NECESSARY TO CHECK IT WITH
THE WORD. YOUR CONFIDENCE IN, OR THE REPUTATION OF THE MAN OR THE MINISTRY
HAVE LEFT YOU FEELING LIKE IN SPITE OF THE FACT YOU FEEL A 'CHECK' THAT YOU
DON'T NEED TO LOOK IN THE MIRROR.
I CONCUR THAT THE INVITATION BY MY FRIEND THOMAS JAKES WAS AN
INVITATION FROM 'MAIN STREAM' MINISTRY AND (BECAUSE YOUR DIDN'T REALIZE THAT
YOUR SPEECH WAS HINDERED) YOU AGREED.
SEEMS LIKE THAT IN SPITE OF YOUR HINDERED SPEECH YOU STILL DELIVERED A WORD
THAT FRUSTRATED THE MAIN STREAM CHURCH. I WOULD SAY THE LEGAL TEAM REPRESENTS
A SYSTEM OF CONTROL, AUTHORITARIANISM AND LEGALISM. THIS GROUP WANTS TO LORD
OVER THE SHEEP AND WOULD OBVIOUSLY FEEL THREATENED BY YOUR
WILLINGNESS TO SPEAK 'THUS SAITH THE LORD' RATHER THAN THE MESSAGE THEY APPROVE.
THEY POSTURE THAT THEY WILL SUE YOU TO SILENCE YOU. WHETHER YOUR MESSAGE WAS
IN THE WORD OF GOD OR NOT IS NOT RELEVANT IN SUCH PEOPLES MIND. THEY HAVE BUILT
THEIR OWN KINGDOMS AND DON'T WANT ANYONE TO INTERFERE.
IT MAY ALSO BE RELEVANT THAT A FAIRLY WELL KNOW APOSTLE PUBLICLY (IN 1998)
CAUTIONED BISHOP JAKES THAT HE NOT PROSTITUTE THE GOSPEL. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU
ARE AWARE OF THAT OR IF THAT IS RELEVANT.
After I became aware of this legal action against me, as I was walking
on the church grounds of this same ministry, I noticed that people were
staring at me as I walked. I was wondering, am I improperly dressed? That
morning I didn't look in the mirror either when I got dressed. Because of the
stares I decided to check my appearance in the mirror. When I did I was properly
dressed in a shirt and slacks. So the stares were puzzling, because there
was no fault in my appearance.
THE PEOPLE WERE STARRING NOT BECAUSE OF YOUR APPEARANCE BUT BECAUSE OF YOUR
SPEECH. OF THE MASTER THEY SAID, "NEVER A MAN SPAKE LIKE THIS MAN." AND
WHILE YOU SAW "NO FAULT" IN YOUR APPEARANCE IN SOME LEGALISTIC SYSTEMS
THEY WOULD SEE FAULT.
So a few days later (after walking on the church grounds) the legal team of
Bishop Jakes came back to me and said that at the time, they did not have
any legal leverage against me. He could not file the lawsuit because I was
protected by the "freedom of speech" law. So no action was taken
at the time.
REALIZING THAT TO SUE YOU WOULD ONLY GIVE YOUR MINISTRY MORE EXPOSURE (DON'T
FEED THE BEARS) THE CONTROLLERS RESORT TO ITIMIDATION AND INNUENDO AND WARN
YOU TO QUIT BEING A LOOSE CANNON AND CONFORM.
After this report, I noticed my speech was getting a little more impaired,
so I finally decided to look into the mirror to see what the problem was.
IT WAS THE HOPE OF THE CONTROLLERS THAN THIS INTIMIDATION WOULD IMPAIR YOUR
SPEECH AND LEAVE YOU INTIMIDATED FROM SPEAKING WHAT GOD HAS SAID.
I opened my mouth and to my surprise a latex glove had attached itself
on my tongue and was growing on my tongue. I pulled it off, and this action
corrected my speech. I was no longer hindered from speaking. This freedom
allowed me to be ready for my next ministry engagement.
YOU MOUTH HAD BECOME COVERED BY A PLASTIC GLOVE. I WOULD SAY THAT REPRESENTS
AN ATTEMPT TO 'SANITIZE' THE MESSAGE. SINCE I OFTEN SPEAK OF THE GLOVE AS REPRESENTING
THE MINISTRY WITH THE HAND OF GOD OPERATING IN IT, I SEE PARTICULAR INFERENCE
TO THE ATTEMPT TO SUPRESS THE EMERGING AWARENESS OF A TRUE FIVE FOLD MINISTRY.
WHEN YOU RELEASE THE TRUE MINISTRY YOUR SPEECH
IS CORRECTED AND RATHER THAN BEING CONTROLED AS THEY HAD HOPED YOU ARE FREE
TO MINISTER TO THOSE WHO WILL RECEIVE YOUR MINISTRY.
Humbly submitted.
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THIS SURE REMINDS ME OF THE BAND ON THE PRIESTS FOREHEAD THAT SAID, "Holiness
unto the Lord." Comment from Carolyn Cook.
From: HisBlood
To: daystar48@optusnet.com.au
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 4:23 AM
Subject: Re: D&V List No.1034
Pastor Paula,
I sure loved this analogy below (the marking of the forehead of the people
of God has reference to the mind or eyes of understanding being enlightened
in the knowledge
of God.....Growing forth unto maturity and mark of God on forehead) This sure
reminds me of the band on the priests forehead that said, "Holiness unto
the Lord."
D&V List No.1034
* If the marking of the forehead of the people of God has reference to the
mind or eyes of understanding being enlightened in the knowledge of God, then
the D&V List concept of the Old Church Order and the New End Time Church
Order (NECTO) may have been vindicated in the companion scriptures to this
dream. Dream by Dawn Braun submitted on 30 Nov. 2004 and interpretation by
Paula Cavu.
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