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D&V List No.1072
Date: Monday 18 April 2005
Topic: Crossing over into the maturity of Heavenly Jerusalem and Promised Land
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** We can assume that the new land and the new discoveries that the people
of the aircraft or spacecraft were trying to get to, were the new heaven
and new earth for humanity redeemed in Christ Jesus... It would therefore
follow that the aircraft or spacecraft represented the vehicle for getting
to the new heaven and new earth. The vehicle is the Church. Dream by Kathryn
on 09 April 2005 and interpretation by Paula Cavu.
** Relative to some things that you believe in, the portrayal of the pastor as a thief may just be showing how he will take away the new things that you believe in and may have proposed (unopened package). He will seek to do this in a sneaky way and not openly. If this is true then it is just another manifestation of the Old Church Order struggling with the inroad of the New End Time Church Order (NETCO) that the D&V List has been proclaiming. Dream by D and interpretation by Paula Cavu.
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We can assume that the new land and the new discoveries that the people of the aircraft or spacecraft were trying to get to, were the new heaven and new earth for humanity redeemed in Christ Jesus... It would therefore follow that the aircraft or spacecraft represented the vehicle for getting to the new heaven and new earth. The vehicle is the Church. Dream by Kathryn on 09 April 2005 and interpretation by Paula Cavu.
From: Katbip4@aol.com
To: daystar48@optusnet.com.au
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 2:18 AM
Pastor Paula,
Greetings in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ! I haven't written to you in
awhile, but I have had this( I sense) very prophetic dream, that I would
like to get your insight on. I do have understanding of it in part and I
am sending this too you also to `let the vision speak' to the church. God
bless you Pastor Paula : )
4/9/05 ( early morning hours)
I dreamnt I was observing this and being told about it...
I seen rows of men and women in like some type of space shuttle or aircraft.. they were all in rows, seated in the air, yet I didn't see any seats, and having on space equipment, particularly I seen head gear. I saw these rows come like 1,2,3,4 and upward to 9.
Suddenly there was a massive explosion. I seen the men and women that had
been seated, going by, dead. I then saw land and mountains. The mountains had
been brought low and the land had sunk into the surrounding waters( it would
be like looking at a world map and seeing land and the oceans and waters surrounding
it). I saw as I was observing this, thick white smoke covering the whole of
the land. The mountains no longer had peaks, but had been leveled and the land
was not totally sunk but had diminished into the waters.
I then see a door and I say` it was the door. If they would have checked
with precision what they had built, this would not have happened'. I am holding
the door open. A voice confirmed what I had said by repeating it and then
said,` This is the mass upquake.' I had a previous dream two months ago of
a mass upquake, that I didn't quite understand. I have never until that moment
heard the term `upquake'. I am thinking in my mind in the dream, had they
checked what they built, instead of only wanting to get to this new land
in space, new discoveries, this would not have happened.
I am then in a mountain area that is covered with dense trees and greenery. I see a woman sitting in a position with her knees bent up to her chest. She is sitting in this place that seems to be `cut out' for the position she is sitting in. The mass upquake, has effected everyone even into the darkest of places. I was thinking of the scripture, this gospel will be preached to all the world, even to the uttermost parts of the earth. I am standing over her and helping her get up and out of this obscure place, by speaking to her the message of the gospel.
I am then back standing holding the door open and telling others, that have built this aircraft, to examine it, that the lives of these people( that were in the shuttle) will be spared( these lives are far more important than the new land, discoveries, that they are so wanting to get too).
All the while during this dream I am being reminded of Ezekiel. As though I were in a place of observing from the Lord, as he had been. I then have a vision within the dream of an eagle flying and lands on a perch overlooking with his keen eye, territory before him, land, which seems to be unchartered. Untouched by man.
1Co 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have
entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them
that love him.
1Co 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth
all things, yea, the deep things of God.
** We can assume that the new land and the new discoveries that the people of the aircraft or spacecraft were trying to go represented the new heaven and new earth for humanity redeemed in Christ Jesus.
Isa 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former
shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.
Isa 65:18 But be ye glad and rejoice forever in that which I create: for, behold,
I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.
It would therefore follow that the aircraft or spacecraft represented the vehicle for getting to the new heaven and new earth. The vehicle is the Church.
Heb 12:22 But ye are come unto mount Zion, and unto the city of the living
God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
Heb 12:23 To the general assembly and CHURCH OF THE FIRSTBORN, which are written
in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made
perfect,
Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God
out of heaven, PREPARED AS A BRIDE ADORNED FOR HER HUSBAND.
Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle
of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people,
and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall
be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more
pain: for the former things are passed away.
Rev 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new.
And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
** Now we can establish that the message of this dream represents a warning that the Church is not being built correctly upon the foundation and the door that is Christ Jesus.
Joh 10:9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.
Co 3:10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder,
I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man
take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
1Co 3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus
Christ.
Here we have the age-old problem of going round and round in the wilderness of spiritual immaturity in carnality and not being able to overcome the flesh in order to cross over into the Promised Land of Heavenly Jerusalem. In the wilderness we can only drink of the milk of the first principles of the doctrine of Christ and are not able to be weaned from the milk, cross Jordan and enter into the Promised Land where we partake of the meat of intimate fellowship and communion with God.
1Co 3:1 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as
unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
1Co 3:2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not
able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
1Co 3:3 FOR YE ARE YET CARNAL: for whereas there is among you envying, and
strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
Jer 23:22 But if they had stood in my counsel, and had caused my people to hear my words, then THEY SHOULD HAVE TURNED THEM FROM THEIR EVIL WAY, AND FROM THE EVIL OF THEIR DOINGS.
Isa 28:9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
Heb 5:12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that
one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and
are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
Heb 5:13 For every one that useth milk is unskillfull in the word of righteousness:
for he is a babe.
Heb 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those
who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
Heb 6:1 THEREFORE LEAVING THE PRINCIPLES OF THE DOCTRINE OF CHRIST, LET US
GO ON UNTO PERFECTION; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead
works, and of faith toward God,
Heb 6:2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection
of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
Heb 6:3 And this will we do, if God permit.
1Jo 2:27 But THE ANOINTING WHICH YE HAVE RECEIVED OF HIM abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
Joh 16:12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them
now.
Joh 16:13 HOWBEIT WHEN HE, THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH, IS COME, HE WILL GUIDE YOU
INTO ALL TRUTH: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall
hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come.
Joh 16:14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall show
it unto you.
Joh 16:15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that
he shall take of mine, and shall show it unto you.
Rev 21:6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning
and the end. I WILL GIVE UNTO HIM THAT IS ATHIRST OF THE FOUNTAIN OF THE WATER
OF LIFE FREELY.
Rev 21:7 HE THAT OVERCOMETH shall inherit all things; and I will be his God,
and he shall be my son.
In being directly taught and led of the Spirit of God (drink of the fountain of the water of eternal life) we have a foretaste of the realities of the new heaven and new earth that is to come.
Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the
gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed
with that Holy Spirit of promise,
Eph 1:14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the
purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
Heb 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once ENLIGHTENED, AND HAVE
TASTED OF THE HEAVENLY GIFT, AND WERE MADE PARTAKERS OF THE HOLY GHOST,
HEB 6:5 AND HAVE TASTED THE GOOD WORD OF GOD, AND THE POWERS OF THE WORLD TO
COME,
Heb 6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing
they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
Heb 6:7 For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and
bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing
from God:
Heb 6:8 But that which beareth thorns and briars is rejected, and is nigh unto
cursing; whose end is to be burned.
Heb 6:9 But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and things that
accompany salvation, though we thus speak.
The explosion of the door of the aircraft or spacecraft of the dream therefore represents the judgment of God upon apostate Christendom that does not have ears to hear the Spirit. This is, that which is founded on unbelief and that which bears thorns and briars.
Heb 4:1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into
his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
Heb 4:2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: BUT THE
WORD PREACHED DID NOT PROFIT THEM, NOT BEING MIXED WITH FAITH IN THEM THAT
HEARD IT.
The message of the dream is also instructing believers to prepare the way for the second coming of the Lord. According to what the Spirit is saying to the churches in the D&V List, we can conclude that the dominant Old Church Order is being judged and will soon be usurped by the New End Time Church Order (NETCO).
Luk 3:4 As it is written in the book of the words of Isaiah the prophet, saying,
The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord,
make his paths straight.
Luk 3:5 EVERY VALLEY SHALL BE FILLED, AND EVERY MOUNTAIN AND HILL SHALL BE
BROUGHT LOW; and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough ways shall
be made smooth;
Luk 3:6 And all flesh shall see the salvation of God.
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Relative to some things that you believe in, the portrayal of the pastor as a thief may just be showing how he will take away the new things that you believe in and may have proposed (unopened package). He will seek to do this in a sneaky way and not openly. If this is true then it is just another manifestation of the Old Church Order struggling with the inroad of the New End Time Church Order (NETCO) that the D&V List has been proclaiming. Dream by D and interpretation by Paula Cavu.
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 04:52:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: D
PASTOR DREAM
April 14, 2005
Good morning Pastor Paula!
I had a long conversation with my Pastor last night before
leaving the church service (Wed.). We talked
about many church activities including prayer,
ministry and future ministry in the church.
I then had this dream:
I dreamed that I was in a large building. I was at one
end of the building having a conversation with someone.
The building was empty except at the other end of the
building was an office space in the corner. On top of some
of the things in that office was an unopened package. It was
new but unopened because the cellophane was still on it.
As I was talking with this person, I saw my Pastor
enter the building at the other end. He must have came in
a side door. I saw him walk over to the desk where the
unopened package was and take it off the desk and
hurridly go to his office. He looked around to see if anyone
was looking. He didn't see me and got his key out to open
his office door. ( I guess the other office was mine).
I then said something like, "what are you doing?" He had
a look of 'I know she saw me do this..' He saw me and
the other person and walked over to us. I said, "what is that
you have there?" He looked at me again as if to say, "okay
you caught me." He took the package down that he was
trying to hide knowing that I caught him stealing. I let him
know what he was doing was wrong and rebuked him for it.
He repented of it because he knew he was in the wrong.
END OF DREAM
** I thought that you would be much better placed to interpret this dream. The portrayal of your pastor as a thief is of course negative so that we have to be careful that the dream and the interpretation are credible.
It is interesting that you were at one end of the building
(presumably portraying the local church) and the pastor was on the other
end. If you two are not agreeing
in real life on some things then this may be showing it. Relative to some things
that you believe in, the portrayal of the pastor as a thief may just be showing
how he will take away the new things that you believe in and may have proposed
(unopened package). He will seek to do this in a sneaky way and not openly.
If this is true then it is just another manifestation of the Old Church Order
struggling with the inroad of the New End Time Church Order (NETCO) that the
D&V List has been proclaiming.
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