D&V List No.503

Date: Friday 17th November, 2000

Topic: Current dreams on the American elections for the presidency.

Contents: * Presumably, one or both of the candidates are going to reveal the heart, character and disposition which is typical of the present American spiritual condition. When this is revealed, for a warning to the American people, then a result will materialize for the next presidency. Dream by Christine Gibson on 13th Nov. 2000 and interpretation by Paula.

* Re: D&V List No.502 If the examination of the votes will be a reversal in favor of Gore, would this not mean that Gore will be the next president? Comment by Wilma Engelgau on 15th Nov. 2000.

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PRESUMABLY, ONE OR BOTH OF THE CANDIDATES ARE GOING TO REVEAL THE HEART, CHARACTER AND DISPOSITION which is typical of the present American spiritual condition. When this is revealed, for a warning to the American people, then a result will materialize for the next presidency. Dream by Christine Gibson on 13th Nov. 2000 and interpretation by Paula.

Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 03:00:40 -0800 From: "Christine Gibson" <christine@applemtg.com>

Greetings, Paula and Daystar team:

..... Been praying for the United States and at the same time enjoying several days of socializing with folks from my grandfather's parent country: Norway. We had fun doing many things Norwegian, including adopting a thick dialect in our speaking. I went to bed after spending some time searching the Internet for information on where our family had lived.

I do not feel this dream has anything to do with my socializing with folks from my grandfather's country of Norway. I feel it has to do with my concentration in prayers for the United States and the voting impasse.

DREAM 11-13-00

This dream seemed to be repeated several times.

My mother was residing in this Norwegian retirement home and I was intent on getting my mother out of this home and into another place. [All true in the natural. My mother is now deceased.] It was around noon.

· My mother - your mother country called USA. · Dreamer - prophetess representing the people of America. · Norwegian retirement home - foreign situation of being in limbo and immobilized election wise. · Intent on getting mother out to another place - Desire to resolve election impasse and move on to the new place with the new president. · Having the dream several times says that the message of the dream is established and will take place soon.

I initially went into the retirement home with all my clothes on and couldn't get anything accomplished. I exited and reentered. This time, I was buck naked. I seemed to have someone with me who asked why I was buck naked. I said "I want to get my mother out of here and this is the only way I can get their attention." I had my mother in a wheelchair and was taking her with me. We were sent to talk with a specific person. It seemed to take him or her a very long time to complete all the paperwork. The person ignored my nakedness, as did everyone else. I just noticed how cold I was. My companion seemed annoyed with me. My mother didn't know anything was going on all. I always stood behind my mother in her wheelchair.

· Christine, I wonder if your clothing represents that spiritual clothing which is currently identified with USA. In this case the present impasse is going to reveal the very heart or spiritual clothing upon USA. Presumably, one or both of the candidates are going to reveal the heart, character and disposition which is typical of the present American spiritual condition. When this is revealed, for a warning to the American people, then a result will materialize for the next presidency. Yes, America is spiritually on a wheel chair and facing spiritual death. The voting paper work is going to take some time (It seemed to take him or her a very long time to complete all the paperwork.)

I awoke in my dream, and commenced dreaming the same dream yet again. In fact, this portion of the dream seemed to be stuck in tape rewind, because it seemed to play out over and over and over again.

For yet another time, I replayed this portion of the dream. Only now, it is much later in the day and the dream seems to continue where it had always previously started over. The person completes the paperwork necessary to transfer my mother out of this place. We commence to leave. The person who prepared the paperwork was upset that he/she had to do all this paperwork. It was most grudgingly done. I was insistent. My companion was uncomfortable with me and my nakedness. My mother simply sat in her chair [also true in the natural during her later years -- she simply relied on me to take care of everything. She was just so happy knowing I would always take care of everything.]

I'm starting to walk away from this paperwork area when I commence to get anxious. I am quite cold being naked and at the same time, I am anxious to alert the new home where I am transferring my mother, that we are on our way. I leave my mother in her wheelchair with my companion and walk back to ask this person to do me a favor. "Would you please call "x" and let them know we are on our way?"

"I most certainly will not! Enough is enough! I want to go home." I plead with the person. The person has no interest in further assisting me. I am concerned that mother will miss her evening meal at the new place. She speaks for the first time telling me "I am very hungry and I want to eat." I am hungry as well. I know it is late and I know her meal in the new place commences at 4:30 p.m.

My companion is still asking me why I am remaining naked. I shrug off the questions because I know I need to remain naked in order to get us out of this building. The front entrance appears to be revolving doors.

I plead one last time for the person to call the new place for me. Again I am refused my request. I ask what time is it. He/she responds "It is 4:15p.m." I awake.

· The dream is saying that the paper work (counting of votes, legal procedures etc.) is going to be a frustrating and time consuming process involving continual confrontation, grudge, anger and non cooperation.

· Christine, I wonder whether the dream is saying that America is now going to a new place with regards to its spiritual state. This could be a place of judgment as it will follow the revelation of the spiritual condition of the heart of America. For this reason your companion (Holy Spirit?) was always pointing to and was being uncomfortable with the nakedness of America (your nakedness) relative to the spiritual clothing of the kingdom of God. The late afternoon time of 4:15pm implied that the night (darkness of judgment) is about to descend. =====================================

Re: D&V List No.502 IF THE EXAMINATION OF THE VOTES WILL BE A REVERSAL IN FAVOR OF GORE, would this not mean that Gore will be the next president? Comment by Wilma Engelgau on 15th Nov. 2000.

Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 12:59:41 -0600 From: "Wilma Engelgau" <wil2garden@worldnet.att.net>

Dear Daystar, A comment on dream by Marty Vandaveer, 11-13-'00. If the examination of the votes will be a reversal in favor of Gore, would this not mean that Gore will be the next president? Bush won in the original count. I agree with your statement of the mighty strongholds that Satan has in this country. W.E. ==================================