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Ichabod in Old Church Order during grooming of NETCO

From: D&V List No.1330
Date: 02 February, 2009
Dream by Prophet Ramona Gregory

THE DREAM
I was in attendance at a church service which appeared to hold approximately 400 people. I was also a guest minister as a prophet at this gathering. Each minister was scheduled to minister in succession with a time limit.

About three quarters of the people left the service (reason unknown). In this group of people was my husband. I wondered why he left before I had the opportunity to minister. The only other person I recognized was another prophet whom I know personally.

The leader (pastor) of this ministry had all of the ministers (about 20) and guest ministers sitting in the pulpit area behind the podium arranged the way the church was designed. During the service the pastor proceeded to move all of the ministers from the place where they were sitting and relocated them to the side of the pulpit in order to displace them from the original (pulpit area) place of authority. The new placement had the appearance of what would look like an American court room where the judge would sit would be the pastors podium and the ministers seats would be where the witness stand would be on the side of the judge.

The pastor came to me and stated that I did not have to stay and minister. He was purposely attempting to get me to leave so that I would not speak the word of the Lord.
When I would not agree to forfeit he cancelled the service and got the congregation to leave so that even though I would minister there wouldn't be anyone there to hear the word of the Lord. The prophet I knew left with this wave of people.

This leader then took a few of the chairs (that originally started in the pulpit, then to the side of the pulpit) and put them outside of the church in the churches side/back yard. He placed the chairs down with a silent statement that indicated that now that he had cancelled the service and asked everyone to go home and since I was still intent on preaching, I would minister to the one still present. By now there was only myself this leader, his wife and about 3 children.

As he was placing the chairs, his wife was writing a check while looking in my direction so that I could see the check. She started to write the check for 200.00 dollars and gave me the silent indication that she could add more zeros to make it 2 thousand or 20 thousand etc. to give to me as a bargain for me not the preach. I was not enticed by this attempt to bribe me.

As I stood there while he placed the chairs and she attempted to entice me with money, in mid-air large capital letters ICHABOD floated above where we were. Once I saw the word, the Lord let me know that this was the message that I was to give as the Word of the Lord to those still present.

** This is another dream that I have received recently that is again highlighting relationship between the Old Church Order and what the D&V List has termed the New End Time Church Order (NETCO). The former is primarily taught by flesh and blood ministers and the latter is weaned from the former to be primarily taught and led of the Spirit in order to go on unto maturity. The former will fall into apostasy and the latter, standing in the counsel of the Lord and having ears to hear Him, will grow and abound with the Word of God.

Mat 13:12 For whosoever hath (ears to hear), to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: BUT WHOSOEVER HATH NOT, FROM HIM SHALL BE TAKEN AWAY EVEN THAT HE HATH.
Mat 13:13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
Mat 13:14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
Mat 13:15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
Mat 13:16 BUT BLESSED ARE YOUR EYES, FOR THEY SEE: AND YOUR EARS, FOR THEY HEAR.

As D&V List readers, we remember that the relationship between the Old Order and NETCO is akin to that between Pharisees and Sadducees of the Gospels and Jesus Christ.
NETCO prophets like you the dreamer are particularly familiar with this situation that is being emphatically reconfirmed in this dream in these pressing end times.

The dream is indicating that soon the evil antichrist spirit of this world in the Old Order will be revealed in its compulsive obsessive opposition to NETCO; just as it was with Jesus Christ and Pharisees and Sadducees of the Gospels who planned proceedings leading to His death and as it was also with the apostles and the Old Order of the Epistles.

Act 7:54 When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth.
Act 7:55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up steadfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,
Act 7:56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.
Act 7:57 Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord,

The dream is saying that the Old Church Order is now an ICHABOD because the Spirit of God or glory of the Lord has departed and is departing from it. Like Hophni and Phinehas, apostate sons of Eli the priest, end time ministers of the Old Order have also behaved selfishly in apostasy, having alienated themselves from the direct teaching and leading of the Spirit. Accordingly they are being judged and will be judged.

1Sa 2:12 Now the sons of Eli were sons of Belial; they knew not the LORD.

1Sa 4:19 And his daughter-in-law, Phinehas' wife, was with child, near to be delivered: and when she heard the tidings that the ark of God was taken, and that her father-in-law and her husband were dead, she bowed herself and travailed; for her pains came upon her.
1Sa 4:20 And about the time of her death the women that stood by her said unto her, Fear not; for thou hast born a son. But she answered not, neither did she regard it.
1Sa 4:21 And she named the child Ichabod saying, The glory is departed from Israel: because the ark of God was taken, and because of her father-in-law and her husband.
1Sa 4:22 And she said, The glory is departed from Israel: for the ark of God is taken.

We note that the birth of ICHABOD in the Old Testament happened at a time when Prophet-Priest Samuel was being groomed in the Temple to restore the voice of God that would again speak and guide His people. Up to then, as it is in much of Christendom now, the credible and verifiable word of the Lord was precious and there was no open vision.

1Sa 3:1 And the child Samuel ministered unto the LORD before Eli. And the word of the LORD was precious in those days; there was no open vision.

As it was in the days of Samuel and Ichabod, so it will be with NETCO and the spirit of antichrist in the Old Church Order. The Old Order will be judged and NETCO will ascend to be of great influence in leadership within end time Christendom.

Folks of NETCO should therefore be encouraged to prepare and avail themselves to the work of God that is grooming end time prophet-priests with divine calling like Samuel.

1Sa 2:18 But Samuel ministered before the LORD, being a child, girded with a linen ephod.

1Sa 2:26 And the child Samuel grew on, and was in favor both with the LORD, and also with men.

Through the work of the Spirit in the grooming of NETCO, undeniable credibility of the prophets of God will be restored in these end times. None of their words will fall to the ground because they are truth and no lie. This is a high calling indeed.

1Sa 3:19 And Samuel grew, and the LORD was with him, AND DID LET NONE OF HIS WORDS FALL TO THE GROUND.
1Sa 3:20 And all Israel from Dan even to Beer-sheba knew that Samuel was established to be a prophet of the LORD.

1Jo 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, AND IS TRUTH, AND IS NO LIE, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

Phi 3:13 Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,
Phi 3:14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.
Phi 3:15 Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.
Phi 3:16 Nevertheless, whereto we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us mind the same thing.
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