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Ministry for Prophecy, Dreams and VisionsLiberty in Christ from religious immaturity
D&V List
No.1290
Date: Thursday 01 May 2008
Dream by Laura Willoughby
SCENE ONE:
I am parked at the end of a street waiting for a large
tanker truck to move. Across from the truck was a
large field and there were men wearing orange vests
around the truck. One man went to the truck to attach
a large hose onto the truck. I heard some of the men
say that they had to move cars from the area. One of
the men waved to me that I had to move my car. I
backed the car back down what I discovered was a dirt
street and I turned around in a yard to head in the
other direction.
As I was driving I saw lots of old type white houses
that I said to whoever was riding with me that I didn't
know they were there. I had discovered a part of the
area that I didn't know existed.
While riding in the area I saw a large crowd around
one of the houses. They were lined up with baskets of
greens and they were marching around the house and
chanting. There was a televangelist outside the house
with a microphone giving them directions on what they
needed to do for the sick person who was inside the
house. He was chanting also and the people were in a
frenzy as they marched and chanted towards the house.
I said that I had to do something about this mess. I got
out of the car and I began to tell the people that they had
to stop what they were doing in the name of Jesus. I told
them that what they were doing was wrong and would not
heal anybody unless they knew Jesus for themselves and
that Jesus was the only way. I told them that God was not
pleased with their actions.
** Scene 1 is a portrayal of the Old Church Order (lots of old type white houses) whose road of progress to perfecting the maturity of Christ is at an end and blocked (I am parked at the end of a street waiting for a large tanker truck to move). That is, the Old Order has not been permitted to go on unto perfection.
Heb 6:1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us
go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead
works, and of faith toward God,
Heb 6:2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection
of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
Heb 6:3 And this will we do, if God permit.
Typically the Old Order constitutes a senior leader and his congregation whose relationship of dependency often limits them to being spiritual babies. (There was a televangelist outside the house with a microphone giving them directions on what they needed to do for the sick person)
Heb 5:12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that
one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and
are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
Heb 5:13 For every one that useth milk is unskillfull in the word of righteousness:
for he is a babe.
Heb 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those
who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
People of the old order have not been weaned from the milk of flesh and blood parent-ministers into meat of the direct teaching and leading of the invisible Spirit of God; but this is the only way of going on to perfect the maturity of Christ.
1Co 3:1 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as
unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
1Co 3:2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not
able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
1Co 3:3 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and
strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
Isa 28:9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
1Jo 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
SCENE TWO:
I am in the house of my youth and I am just getting up
for the day. My youngest son comes in with three boys
and they begin to try to take over the house. They go
in my bedroom and other areas; they began to play
games on my computer, watch movies and act as if they
were in charge.
I immediately tell my son that they had to get out and that
I had told him before that nobody was going to come in
and take over my house. I told him that my house was
God's house and nobody was going to change that. I
watched as he and the boys leave the house.
Isa 3:4 And I WILL GIVE CHILDREN TO BE THEIR PRINCES, AND BABES SHALL RULE
OVER THEM.
Isa 3:5 And the people shall be oppressed, every one by another, and every
one by his neighbor: the child shall behave himself proudly against the ancient,
and the base against the honorable.
** The companion scripture above agrees with Scene 1 and Scene 2 that people of the Old Church Order, deprived of the direct teaching and leading of the Spirit of God, are not able to go on unto perfecting the maturity of Christ. Thus, they can only degenerate to the extent where proud, arrogant, superficial and self-centered spiritual children become their leaders. Of such was the chanting televangelist of the dream who was leading his church group like an over indulgent coach of toddlers in a sports team.
As portrayed in your response to insensitive and assertive children in your house of Scene 2, people of the New End Time Church Order (NETCO) will have discernment and wisdom not to allow such spiritual children to rule over them. It is for this reason that many have opted to leave institutional churches ruled by proud, insensitive and assertive spiritual children who could not or will not go on unto perfecting the maturity of Christ.
This situation is so prevalent in sectors of Christendom that one has got to go outside the camp in order to go on unto perfecting the wisdom, understanding and knowledge of the maturity of Christ. Although Jesus Christ attended and observed appropriate religious traditions of the institutional church of his time, he was primarily a servant of God to people of ordinary everyday life wherever they were. He was their daily bread, working, socializing, teaching and ministering wherever He went. In fact, He prophesied of the demise of the religious and traditional institutional church to be replaced by the Church or Kingdom of God in Him within the believer.
Joh 2:18 Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What sign showest thou
unto us, seeing that thou doest these things?
Joh 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three
days I will raise it up.
Joh 2:20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building,
and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
Joh 2:21 But he spake of the temple of his body.
Joh 2:22 When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered
that he had said this unto them; and they believed the Scripture, and the word
which Jesus had said.
Mar 14:58 We heard him say, I will destroy this temple that is made with hands, and within three days I will build another made without hands.
1Co 6:19 What? know ye not that YOUR BODY IS THE TEMPLE OF THE HOLY GHOST which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
1Co 3:16 Know ye not that YE ARE THE TEMPLE OF GOD, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
Rom 14:17 For THE KINGDOM OF GOD is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
Mat 6:33 But seek ye first THE KINGDOM OF GOD, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
To be led of God like Jesus to freedom outside the camp of bondage to religious and traditional institutional churches is to suffer opposition, criticism and persecution as He did; particularly so at the hands of religious and traditional institutional churches whose devotion to unbridled legalism is evidence of underlying spiritual immaturity.
Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of
God.
Rom 8:15 For ye have not received THE SPIRIT OF BONDAGE again to fear; but
ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
Rom 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the
children of God:
Rom 8:17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ;
IF SO BE THAT WE SUFFER WITH HIM, THAT WE MAY BE ALSO GLORIFIED TOGETHER.
3:12 Yea, and ALL THAT WILL LIVE GODLY IN CHRIST JESUS SHALL SUFFER PERSECUTION.
2Ti 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and
being deceived.
SCENE THREE:
I am in a kitchen of a house that I am not familiar
with. I am standing next to a window and there is a
man sitting across from me. He is sitting at a table
and he seems not to be aware of what is going on, but
I still see him and I know he is there.
A woman comes in and she begins to change her
clothes. I told her that there was a man in the room
with us and she told me that she didn't care because
she knew that she could change her clothes in my house.
Shortly after this woman leaves another woman comes
in and she begins to change her clothes also. I told this
woman that there was a man in the room with us and she
tells me that she doesn't care because she knew that she
could come to my house and change her clothes. As she
was changing her clothes, I awoke from the dream.
** In you (dreamer) embodying restoration of the Church proper in NETCO, people will come to your doctrine (your house). Here they will repent from ignoring reality of ministry of the Spirit. In connecting with the direct teaching and leading of the Spirit they will put on spiritual garments of the righteousness of God in Christ (change their clothes); no longer to be in bondage to the sleight of men and cunning craftiness of religious institutions that will not give up control of the people of their kingdoms easily.
Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ HAVE PUT ON
CHRIST.
Gal 3:28 THERE IS NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK, THERE IS NEITHER BOND NOR FREE, THERE
IS NEITHER MALE NOR FEMALE: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Eph 4:13 TILL WE ALL COME in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge
of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, UNTO THE MEASURE OF THE STATURE OF THE
FULLNESS OF CHRIST:
Eph 4:14 THAT WE HENCEFORTH BE NO MORE CHILDREN, tossed to and fro, and carried
about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness,
whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
Joh 8:36 IF THE SON THEREFORE SHALL MAKE YOU FREE, YE SHALL BE FREE INDEED.
Joh 8:37 I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because
my word hath no place in you.
Joh 8:38 I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which
ye have seen with your father.
Now we come to Old Testament companion scriptures to the entire dream. In agreement with the dream, they describe in the natural that which has application in spirit to modern apostate Christendom (Jerusalem/Judah). In Old Testament context, ruling children is akin to church leadership of spiritual immaturity. Ruling women allude to weakness relative to ability to see and confront injustices of the status quo as Jesus did with the church of Pharisees, Sadducees and Scribes. May light shine in the dark place of your understanding as you read these scriptures, until day dawns and daystar arise in your hearts (2 Peter 1:19-21).
Isa 3:1 For, behold, the Lord, the LORD of hosts, doth take away from Jerusalem
and from Judah the stay and the staff, the whole stay of bread, and the whole
stay of water,
Isa 3:2 The mighty man, and the man of war, the judge, and the prophet, and
the prudent, and the ancient,
Isa 3:3 The captain of fifty, and the honorable man, and the counselor, and
the cunning artificer, and the eloquent orator.
Isa 3:4 And I WILL GIVE CHILDREN TO BE THEIR PRINCES, AND BABES SHALL RULE
OVER THEM.
Isa 3:5 And the people shall be oppressed, every one by another, and every
one by his neighbor: the child shall behave himself proudly against the ancient,
and the base against the honorable.
Isa 3:6 When a man shall take hold of his brother of the house of his father,
saying, THOU HAST CLOTHING, BE THOU OUR RULER, and let this ruin be under thy
hand:
Isa 3:7 In that day shall he swear, saying, I will not be a healer; for in
my house is neither bread nor clothing: make me not a ruler of the people.
Isa 3:8 For Jerusalem is ruined, and Judah is fallen: because their tongue
and their doings are against the LORD, to provoke the eyes of his glory.
Isa 3:9 The show of their countenance doth witness against them; and they declare
their sin as Sodom, they hide it not. Woe unto their soul! for they have rewarded
evil unto themselves.
Isa 3:10 Say ye to the righteous, that it shall be well with him: for they
shall eat the fruit of their doings.
Isa 3:11 Woe unto the wicked! it shall be ill with him: for the reward of his
hands shall be given him.
Isa 3:12 AS FOR MY PEOPLE, CHILDREN ARE THEIR OPPRESSORS, and WOMEN RULE OVER
THEM. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the
way of thy paths.
Isa 3:13 The LORD standeth up to plead, and standeth to judge the people.
Isa 3:14 The LORD will enter into judgment with the ancients of his people,
and the princes thereof: for ye have eaten up the vineyard; the spoil of the
poor is in your houses.
Isa 3:15 What mean ye that ye beat my people to pieces, and grind the faces
of the poor? saith the Lord GOD of hosts.
Eze 34:1 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
Eze 34:2 Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, prophesy, and
say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto the shepherds; Woe be to the
shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves! should not the shepherds feed
the flocks?
Eze 34:3 Ye eat the fat, and ye clothe you with the wool, ye kill them that
are fed: but ye feed not the flock.
Eze 34:4 The diseased have ye not strengthened, neither have ye healed that
which was sick, neither have ye bound up that which was broken, neither have
ye brought again that which was driven away, neither have ye sought that which
was lost; but with force and with cruelty have ye ruled them.
Eze 34:5 And they were scattered, because there is no shepherd: and they became
meat to all the beasts of the field, when they were scattered.
Eze 34:6 My sheep wandered through all the mountains, and upon every high hill:
yea, my flock was scattered upon all the face of the earth, and none did search
or seek after them.
Eze 34:7 Therefore, ye shepherds, hear the word of the LORD;
Eze 34:8 As I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely because my flock became a prey,
and my flock became meat to every beast of the field, because there was no
shepherd, neither did my shepherds search for my flock, but the shepherds fed
themselves, and fed not my flock;
Eze 34:9 Therefore, O ye shepherds, hear the word of the LORD;
Eze 34:10 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against the shepherds; and
I will require my flock at their hand, and cause them to cease from feeding
the flock; neither shall the shepherds feed themselves any more; for I will
deliver my flock from their mouth, that they may not be meat for them.
Eze 34:11 For thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I, even I, will both search
my sheep, and seek them out.
Eze 34:12 As a shepherd seeketh out his flock in the day that he is among his
sheep that are scattered; so will I seek out my sheep, and will deliver them
out of all places where they have been scattered in the cloudy and dark day.
Eze 34:13 And I will bring them out from the people, and gather them from the
countries, and will bring them to their own land, and feed them upon the mountains
of Israel by the rivers, and in all the inhabited places of the country.
Eze 34:14 I will feed them in a good pasture, and upon the high mountains of
Israel shall their fold be: there shall they lie in a good fold, and in a fat
pasture shall they feed upon the mountains of Israel.
Eze 34:15 I WILL FEED MY FLOCK, AND I WILL CAUSE THEM TO LIE DOWN (REST OF
GOD), SAITH THE LORD GOD.
Luk 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God
should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with
observation:
Luk 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, THE KINGDOM
OF GOD IS WITHIN YOU.
Heb 4:7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, Today, after so
long a time; as it is said, TODAY IF YE WILL HEAR HIS VOICE, HARDEN NOT YOUR
HEARTS.
Heb 4:8 For if Joshua had given them rest, then would he not afterward have
spoken of another day.
Heb 4:9 THERE REMAINETH THEREFORE A REST TO THE PEOPLE OF GOD.
Heb 4:10 FOR HE THAT IS ENTERED INTO HIS REST, HE ALSO HATH CEASED FROM HIS
OWN WORKS, as God did from his.
My personal bible commentary on Eze 34:14
THE PROMISED LAND, REST OF GOD OR KINGSOM OF HEAVEN IS IN THE SPIRIT WITHIN
YOU
Eze_34:13-15; Luk_17:20-21; Rom_14:17; Joh_16:12-15; Isa_55:1-13; 1Jo_2:27;
Eph_1:3-5; Dan_2:34-35; Dan_2:44-45
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