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Transcript 247C — Are UFO's Somehow Related to Angelic Activity?
HC: Good evening. Welcome to Open Forum.
CALLER: Good evening. I was calling about UFO's. Could there be a possibility of these beings from other places being angels from God?
HC: The question is raised, "Is it possible that UFO's are somehow related to angelic activity?" We know that they cannot be angels. The angels are ministering spirits sent by God on behalf of those who are being saved. And angels will not violate God's rules. God has laid down His rules that the Bible is the sourcebook of truth. We are to find God's will in the Word of God, ever since the Bible has been completed. So it cannot be angel activity.
Now it is possible that Satan, in his deceptive program, might cause people to see what they think is a UFO, even as he causes a medium, let's say, to think that she is seeing the spirit of a departed dead, let's say, or like the Witch of Endor thought she was seeing Samuel. Actually, all she was seeing was an apparition that was concocted by an evil spirit. And so this possibly could happen. Yes, this could happen.
But that doesn't mean that they are being from outer space, or that we're being invaded, or that they really have substance. You see, evil spirits are spirit beings, and there is no substance there insofar as this world is concerned.
CALLER: I believe they are, myself. And you said there are no references to UFO's in the Bible. And I can see quite a few. There are many stars that do strange things, like the star that led the wise men for so long. That was rather ironic a thing for a star to do. There was the pillar of fire that led the Jews out of Egypt, and led them to the Promised Land. There were quite a few references to pillars of fire, to stars, in those ancient days. Men didn't know what to write down. They had to write down what they saw, or what they thought they were. How would they know what to explain, other than a light of some sort, a cloud?
HC: Your observation is that since the Bible speaks about Elijah going to Heaven in a chariot of fire, or in a whirlwind with a chariot of fire, and the Bible speaks of the pillar of fire in the wilderness, and so on, that these possibly were references to UFO's, and the people who wrote the Bible didn't know quite what to write down.
Now right at this point we've got the sixty-four dollar question: Is the Bible the Word of God, or is it not? Is the Bible the work of ancient men, who didn't really know whereof they were writing, and could not really say what they'd like to say? Or is the Bible the infallible Word of God and absolutely trustworthy in all that it says? In other words, when it speaks about a pillar of fire, was it a pillar of fire? Or was it something else? And when the Bible speaks of Elijah going to Heaven in a whirlwind, with a chariot of fire, were they these things or were they something else?
Now that's where the big question is. If the Bible is going to be the Bible, and it's going to be the Word of God, then we must accept these statements to be what they say. If these writers didn't know what they were writing about, and they were actually writing about UFO's, then we have no Bible. Then we have absolutely no salvation. We have absolutely no salvation. We might as well close shop insofar as looking at the Bible as the inspired Word of God. We might as well start searching for truth some other place, and hope that somewhere out there in the wild woolly world there's truth. Either we take the Bible, and the whole Bible, as the infallible Word of God, or we have to scrap it. You can't take part of it.
CALLER: I am a born again Christian, and I definitely believe it because God told me so. It was my first experience with God, and I really didn't believe for sure. You know, I thought maybe He was dead or something, or didn't care about us. And He told me that there were angels, and that's when I believed in God.
HC: How did He tell you there were angels?
CALLER: Two and a half years ago there was a big UFO thing going on, and that scared me. And I was scared to death. And in my first sincere prayer of my whole life, I asked God for help, because I was scared. And He told me, "Don't be afraid. I am with you."
HC: How did He tell you?
CALLER: And He said, "They are angels."
HC: Now let me ask you another question then. How do you know that was a voice from God?
CALLER: Because I was immediately at peace. And I had called out for God to answer me. And God would not have let anyone else answer but Him.
HC: How do you know God would not have let anyone else answer? When God has given us His Word . . .
CALLER: He's not going to let Satan answer.
HC: But you see, here's the problem. If God has given me His Word, and He's given me eyes to see, and He's given me the Bible to read, and it's in plain black and white what He wants me to know, and now I repudiate that Word, and I don't read the Word, and I cry out to God, "Oh God, show me, show me," effectively I'm saying, "Look. I don't trust the Word. I have to get some information." And God of course has given us His Word. He wants us to go to the Word, and He may just stand aside and let someone else give us the information.
CALLER: I have gone to the Word, and I have looked in the Word. And I can't find anything that says No.
HC: You see, this brings me to a second observation. Because you have effectively said that the Bible is the Word of God, and you've also said that this voice that you've heard is the Word of God, therefore now you are interpreting the Bible not only by the Bible itself but also by this experience you had where you heard this voice. And of course then you're going to come up with different answers as to what the Bible means, because you have a different foundation. You have a different source of truth than if you had only the Bible.
Any time we add to the Bible, let's say that there's also a source of divine truth over here, or over there, then, from that point on, we're not going to get the same answers from the Bible anymore. If we limit our belief to the fact that the divine Word is confined to the Bible, and let it alone be its own divine interpreter, then we'll come to one set of conclusions. We're going to find our answers in one direction. But if we're going to add, and say that there's also divine truth over here, then our understanding of the Bible is going to come up with different answers. And so I can understand then why you are ready to believe that maybe the pillar of fire wasn't a pillar of fire.
Now I read the Bible in the light of everything the Bible says, and I'm convinced it was a pillar of fire. There isn't one word in the Bible that says it was not a pillar of fire. And therefore I know it was a pillar of fire, because the Bible says so. And the same with Elijah going up in a whirlwind. There's nothing else that detracts from that.
But if I was going to read the Bible, and say, "Well, it's the divine Word, but I also have other information over here which I think is divine. If I had an experience like that, I would absolutely disregard it. I would cry out to God for mercy. "How is it possible that even the suggestion came into my mind that I could hear divine truth from a source outside of the Bible?" I would want nothing to do with it.
I know that when I read the Bible, I absolutely cannot be conned into some direction I should not go. I know that, because the Bible is from God. I also know that the Bible teaches, particularly in II Corinthians 11, that Satan goes about as an angel of light. And as an angel of light, it's easy to think about Satan out there in the secular world, in witchcraft and ouija boards, and seances, and what have you. That's easy to see. But when God says that Satan goes about as an angel of light, that is, he comes looking as holy as God Himself, and with the Gospel of God Himself, because that's what an angel of light is, then I've really got to be on guard, and I know that the only authoritative source of divine truth where I'll never be betrayed is the Bible itself.
CALLER: Thank you, Brother Camping.
HC: Thank you for calling. Good night.