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1 3 September 2009 Bobby Crafford: drumming for The Legendary Pacers Bobby Crafford and Dr Cecilia Netolicky  
2 6 September 2009

Giant of Rock EVENT

 
By LARRY STROUD - Batesville (Arkansas) Daily Guard September 3, 2009 (posted with permission) Editors (Perth Rocks): Both articles are from the Arkansas newspaper, Daily Guard, on the concert to honour, and raise funds to assist the family of, one of the original, renowned  musicians who recorded with Sun Studios in the late 50s and early 60s, Billy Lee Riley. The article communicates the buzz you get when attending gigs in the Heartland, with so many of the great names still rockin' and playing the music of their youth, and the genuine feeling of camaraderie amongst the surviving rockers. As is apparent from the musicians who lined up to honour him, Billy Lee Riley was held in high regard by the musicians of the era. Many say, musically he had what it takes to make it big, but he was reluctant to go out and market himself, and this is the only reason he's not a household name today.
3 6 September 2009 Billy Lee Riley remembered  By Lacy Mitchell -Batesville (Arkansas) Daily Guard September 2, 2009 (posted with permission)  See above.
4 17 September 2009 Sonny Burgess: Still Rockin' Sonny Burgess and Dr Cecilia Netolicky  

 

 
 

Bobby Crafford: drumming for The Legendary Pacers

 Bobby Crafford and Dr Cecilia Netolicky   Up-loaded 3 September 2009

 

Biopic - Sonny Burgess, Bobby Crafford and The Legendary Pacers (Arkansas, USA): "They play the music of the 50's the best because they helped invent it!" (http://www.angelfire.com/music3/legendarypacers/bio_page1.htm). "Burgess was rockabilly's real wild child -- hootin' and hollerin' and flat-out screaming, pouncing off the stage in mid performance with the Pacers to lead the audience in Indian war dances and human pyramid-building, then jumping back on the bandstand and tearing up the fretboard. Which makes him a hero if you're into any kind of wild-ass rock and roll" (http://www.rockabilly.net/articles/burgess.shtml). It would seem, not much has changed, as Bobby Crafford's wife says, "My husband's in his 70s, but when he's on that bandstand he thinks he's in his 20s". In 1999 Sonny Burgess was voted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame of Europe. The group were inducted into the Rockabilly Hall of Fame in Jackson, Tennessee in 2002; the Arkansas Entertainers Hall of Fame in 2007; and the Arkansas Walk of Fame in Hot Springs, Arkansas in 2007.

 

 

In the South, in the early 50s, it was mainly was Country, Big Band and Rhythm and Blues. Teenagers listened to Rhythm and Blues on radio. Rhythm and Blues was generally only played in "black nightclubs". On one occasion Elvis was playing 20 miles from Bobby's hometown, but he didn't go, he thought it would be all Country, because the other artists in the show were Country. In those days, who was "Country, and who was Rock'n'Roll, was mixed up. In the early days people saw Elvis and Johnny Cash as kinda Country". Now many people call Sonny Burgess and The Legendary Pacers Rockabilly, but "Rockabilly wasn't a word we used then. We first heard it about 15 years ago. Until then we called ourselves Rock'n'Roll. Johnny Cash was Country. Now we play at Rockabilly and Rock'n'Roll Festivals. The term Rockabilly probably came from Europe. It wasn't used here until recently".

Rock'n'Roll, as an era, began around 1955. Bobby first heard Rock'n'Roll on the radio. He lived in a small town where there was no live entertainment. When he was around 14, or 15 years old, he worked at a movie house, where he also saw "Rock Around the Clock". "That was the first time I heard white people play that sort of music". Late at night they had "an all black show" where you could see Rhythm and Blues artists, and dancing. One night Bobby stopped in front of a local black nightclub and listened to Louis Jordan ("Caldonia", "Choo Choo Ch'Boogie") and BB King ("Let the Good Times Roll"). These artists had a profound influence on Bobby, "most of what I sing is Rhythm and Blues".

Bobby Crafford from "Sonny Burgess and the Legendary Pacers at the International Rockabilly Festival 2008 in Jackson Tennessee

Bobby started playing in a band about 1955. They were playing what they thought was Rhythm and Blues, such as Marty Robbins "A White Sport Coat (and a Pink Carnation)". When Bobby first started playing with Sonny, they did a bit of Country, some Elvis and Carl Perkins. In those days, Elvis would open for a Hank Snow show (Country music). 'There weren't many Rock'n'Roll shows at the time, and if you wanted to play, you mixed in with the Country shows". 

With the invention of the solid-body-electric-guitar (invented by Lester William Polsfuss, known as Les Paul) and the replacement of the stand-up-double-base, the Rock'n'Roll sound was made possible. Up to this point, when it came to music played by white popular musicians, guitars were seen as instruments for Country music.

When Rock'n'Roll first started, "a lot of people were against the music. It wasn't until the late 50s that that went away. Most liked their music soft and easy. Maybe people didn't like it because it brought whites and blacks together, and there was still a lot of discrimination at that time".

In those days, there weren't the variety of radio stations you have now, and most were very local. Radio stations only played music for a few hours a day, and they generally went off air at 6pm. Then you had to tune in on your car radio, to Memphis or Nashville. These stations played till midnight, or 2am. The radio stations didn't just play music, there were all sorts of shows, even daily soap operas. It was easier to get stuff played on radio then, but "recording companies didn't promote their artists in the South, because there were so many small cities and local radio stations. After we cut a record at Sun [Studios], two of us would head South, and two North, to visit the DJs. You needed to go round in person, and impress them, if you wanted to get your record air time. There was a local Top 40 then, and one TV station in Memphis, and one in Arkansas".

Photo from Rickey Copeland

In the 50s you heard live music in nightclubs, and high school and college parties. "Every little town had a nightclub, and everyone would go. There was no TV and people were looking for something to do. It was routine to go to your local club". Once you had a record you may get to play in a theatre. Theatres often had bands on a Saturday afternoon. Bobby has a poster from a show at the time with Elvis, Carl Perkins and Johnny Cash. The entry charge was $1.25.

"When we started out, we had a little PA you could fit in the trunk of a car, a small amp and microphone which we stuck in back of the piano, and a guitar amp. You had to go to a large city to find anything. The high schools had drums. I bought my first set from a high school. Drum sets were small in those days. We had a metal box made out of stainless steel  mounted on top of our green Cadillac to carry the drums and double base.  As the music got popular it was easier to buy equipment".

Bobby joined Sonny Burgess and The Pacers in August of 1957. They went on the road right away. In January they went to Canada. "Canada was the big place for Southern musicians. They had clubs you could play six nights a week, and get paid good money". In "1957 I got educated, because we started doing shows with Carl Perkins, Elvis Presley, Jerry Lee Lewis and Roy Orbison". They toured with Johnny Cash, Elvis (four times), Billy Lee Riley, Jerry Lee Lewis and Roy Orbison. "The Sun [Studios] artists stuck together. The band had a big Cadillac and Roy Orbison would travel with us". They played to packed houses. In Birmingham Alabama, with Johnny Cash, they played to an audience of 25,000 people. "It was an eye-opener".


Bobby Crafford - video clip

 Interview with Bobby Crafford - 2nd September 2009

Dr Cecilia Netolicky

Why do think Sonny Burgess and The Pacers 'made it'? What was different, or special, that others who failed to 'make it', lacked?

Two things helped us, the way we dressed. We always dressed sharp, and put on a show. They liked the music, but they also liked the show. There were not many bands then, so you had a good chance of 'making it', but you had 'to be at the right place at the right time', and prepared to take advantage of opportunities. At one time, Carl Perkins couldn't perform. He had a wreck, and they were laid-up. The Pacers got a call asking if we were ready to go. We were on another tour at the time, but we gave it up and joined Johnny Cash. It was a case of 'the right place, at the right time'. Also you've got to be playing what the people want to hear. You need to have personality, and you have to enjoy what you do, if you don't you're in the wrong business.

What was it like recording at Sun Studios?

I recorded with Sonny there, and at Phillips [Sam C Phillips Recording Studio, in Memphis, Tennessee]. The first time I saw a studio, was when we were recording. It was a shock. I was amazed at the equipment. It was so different, I didn't realize what was going on. It was a crazy feeling. We only did two or three takes. We played in a studio just like on a bandstand. A lot of people tighten-up when recording, but we don't like to be separated for recording. We do it all together like we're on a bandstand.

Signed photograph from Netolicky Collection

What would you list as your favourite Pacers' recordings?

"Find my Baby for Me", because to make it work it needed background voices. Roy Orbison walked in, so he sang background for us. When we were touring around Sam Phillips let us come through and record. One time our piano player couldn't get off work so Charlie Rich played piano, another time Billy Lee Riley walked in and played harmonica.

Do you see Rock'n'Roll as more than a music style?

Well, it gets in your blood. Once you've been in music I don't think you can get out of it. They kept saying it would be a style, and it would go away. To me now, Country is what we used to play. Blue Grass is the only music now that is early Country. I don't know what's going to happen to old style Rock'n'Roll music. Maybe, the only thing that's going to keep it going is Country.

How do you explain the current interest in 50s and 60s style Rock'n'Roll/Rockabilly in Europe, Japan and Australia, from all age groups, compared with the current situation in the cradle of rockabilly, Arkansas and Tennessee?

There are a lot of museums popping up in the South, and lots of older people returning to play it. A lot of the older guys wouldn't be playing if there wasn't the interest. We play a lot locally. We're already taking bookings for next year, and Sonny's 80. We ask ourselves, are we going to be able to play next year?

In Japan in November it was packed. They had good bands of their own, but they love the music. The first time we went over we couldn't believe how crazy they are about it. The first time we had bodyguards. They were afraid the fans may be over zealous.

Spain has a lot of shows. Our first trip there was three years ago. We sold every piece of merchandise we had. Some guys there owned a recording studio. On way to beach they asked us to pop in a record one song. We went in at 10am. At 12pm we got Cokes and candy bars and recorded a full session. We'll release that at the festival in Spain next week.

I never dreamed we'd be doing this now. Socializing with big names. It's really a great feeling to have these friends and be able to do this. I don't know how much longer we'll be able to. Sonny and I talk about this. We wonder if the next generation will value the things we've achieved, and collected. We're very lucky to be still touring, and thanks to all of our fans, we love you!

 

 

 

Giant of Rock EVENT

By LARRY STROUD - Batesville (Arkansas) Daily Guard September 3, 2009 (posted with permission)

The Aug. 30 benefit concert at the Silver Moon in Newport, Arkansas, for the family of the late Billy Lee Riley was not just a concert, it was an EVENT. The Moon was packed, with lots of people standing, blocking the view of the stage for those who carried their own chairs inside to sit at the back. The Moon seated 400 for the 5 1/2-hour long benefit, which meant there was no room for dancing until after about 3:30 p.m. when the crowd began to thin just a little, opening a couple of small dancing spots.

I kept going back and forth because it was as exciting outside as inside, and as exciting inside as outside. I missed some of the musicians' performances. For instance, I didn't see either Dale Hawkins of "Susie Q" fame or Ace Cannon perform. However, I took pictures of Hawkins talking with some folks outside and I saw Ace Cannon perform a few years ago when the King of Clubs at Swifton was the setting for part of the filming of "Good Rockin' Tonight: The Legacy of Sun Records," the feature length television special and DVD of Sun Records performers from the 1950s.

Riley died Aug. 2 after a lengthy illness, leaving large hospital bills. Sunday's benefit show was being planned before his death, and organizers decided to go ahead with it. Sun alumni Sonny Burgess of Newport, one of the organizers, was afraid so many people would show up that they couldn't get inside. If that happened, those who couldn't get inside sat outside, and everyone outside seemed happy. Actually, I think everyone actually got inside for probably as long as they wanted.

Burgess said once the news of the show got on the Internet at the Rockabilly Hall of Fame's Web site, bands and performers began calling wanting to be on the show and at least one fan from Australia called. Several from Sweden attended the show, including performer Teddy "Thunderbird" Hill and Johnny Sandberg, who arranged a Newport/Memphis trip for himself and others from that country.

Two of Riley's Little Green Men - his band in the '50s, named after one of Riley's hits, "Flyin' Saucers Rock & Roll" - showed up to perform: Sun session drummer J.M. "Jimmy" Van Eaton and pianist Smoochy Smith, who was a Little Green Man for about a year. Little Green Men band members wore coats made from the green felt like that on pool tables, and boy, were those coats hot, Smith said.

Burgess and his legendary Pacers with Sun session guitarist Travis Wammack and occasionally accompanied by J.R. Rogers of Walnut Ridge on guitar were onstage as the backing band for much of the afternoon, although some acts brought their own guitarists. That arrangement kept the show moving and kept various bands from causing down time to set up their own equipment; all they had to do was bring their guitars onstage.

Rogers, an Arkansas state legislator, introduced and pushed through legislation that recently got Arkansas Highway 67, which runs past the Silver Moon, designated as Rock'n'Roll Highway 67 because Elvis Presley, Burgess, Jerry Lee Lewis and other legendary figures who created or helped fashion the sound of rock'n'roll performed regularly in the 1950s at clubs along the route. The highway keeps the designation as it crosses several counties.

The late Johnny Cash's drummer, W.S. Holland, Carl Mann ("Mona Lisa"), Larry Donn, Teddy Reidel (who performed "Judy," a song he wrote for Elvis Presley) and a surprise guest, Sleepy LaBeef, also performed at the benefit.

"I heard about it and pulled into the parking lot and saw Sonny and said, 'Can I do a couple of songs,'" the crowd-pleasing LaBeef told the audience.

My son, Rockin' Luke LeWolfe Stroud, a Jerry Lee Lewis style pianist/vocalist, closed the show with "Great Balls of Fire" and "Whole Lotta Shakin," backed by Jeannie & The Guys (Jean Hendrix on drums, Doug Greeno on bass and Marcus Graddy on lead guitar), with Rogers also joining in on lead guitar.

Sun donated Riley T-shirts for sale, which were popular with the crowd.

The General Lee and Ben "Cooter" Jones of "The Dukes of Hazzard" television show were also on hand for photos in front of the Silver Moon's artwork of a wolf howling at the Earth's moon painted on the front of the building.

Oxford American magazine was filming the EVENT.

Outside, attendees were as apt to bump into well-known music personalities as to bump into the guy next door. I visited with LaBeef and other performers, and spent much of my time outside promoting Rockin' Luke, one of the featured artists at the upcoming Grand Opening of Rock'n'Roll Highway 67 show to be held in conjunction with Depot Days on Sept. 26 on Front Street in Newport. That event starts at 2 that afternoon and continues until 10:30 p.m.

Along with Rockin' Luke, the grand opening show will feature Burgess with the Pacers and Wammack, the Derailers, Cannon, Rogers and his All-Stars, the Dunham Family Band, magician Jimmy Rhodes and Jason D. Williams.

Vendors, crafts booths and concessions will be available, and fireworks are scheduled for 10:30 p.m. Music is free all day, organizer Henry Boyce of Newport said.

Rockin' Luke with Burgess as his lead guitarist will perform at the Caldwell (Arkansas) Cotton Pickin' Festival the previous day, Sept. 25, about 6 p.m., where Rockin' Luke is opening for Burgess and the Pacers. And on Oct. 3, at the northern end of Rock'n' Roll Highway 67 in Randolph County, Rockin' Luke will perform at 1 p.m. on the downtown main stage at the Rock'n'Roll Highway 67 Music Festival in Pocahontas. Burgess and the Pacers will play on the same stage at 3 p.m. and Rogers and his All-Stars go on the Skylark Drive-In stage at 7, followed by Billy Joe Royal on the same stage. Maybe some folks from Australia and Sweden will show up at those events.

Rockabilly music is hoppin' again along Rock'n'Roll Highway 67.

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Larry Stroud is the associate editor of the Batesville Daily Guard. He can be reached at larrydstroud@yahoo.com or at the Guard office at (870) 793-2383.

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Billy Lee Riley remembered

By Lacy Mitchell - Batesville (Arkansas) Daily Guard September 2, 2009 (posted with permission)

NEWPORT, Arkansas - For some the journey was short, for others it was long, for many, however, it was worth it.

As family, friends, fans and fellow musicians gathered at the Silver Moon Club in Newport on Sunday to honor late Sun-recording artist Billy Lee Riley, one thing was clear to club owner Grant Brinsfield.

Aside from Elvis Presley's performances here in 1955, "Newport hasn't seen anything like this in 50 years," he said with a laugh, standing outside the new Silver Moon that was built in 1987 after a fire destroyed the original building in 1986.

Just feet from the present-day club pieces of rock, concrete and tile flooring are all that remain of the Silver Moon that was built in the late 1930s and played host to many travelling musicians throughout the years, including Riley, Harold "Conway Twitty" Jenkins, Johnny Cash and Jerry Lee Lewis.

These days it's part of the parking lot, and on the afternoon of Aug. 30 there was hardly a parking spot to be found as more than 400 people turned out for the benefit, which raised more than $6,000 for Riley's family.

For Joe Beutner and Terri Barr of Tomahawk, Wis., it was something that even tickets to a St. Louis Cardinals game couldn't stop them from attending.

Fans of Riley and his peers, it was Beutner who read about the benefit on the Rockabilly Hall of Fame Web site. Putting the ball game in Missouri on hold, the two continued their venture on to Newport and the Silver Moon located along the newly renamed Rock'n'Roll Highway 67.

"It took 900 miles exactly," said Beutner, wearing a blue Billy Lee Riley memorial T-shirt, as Barr, wearing a Sun Records T-shirt, stood near his side.

Both agreed it was all worth it to be part of an event that was also a celebration of music and included performances by former Sun recording artists Sonny Burgess and the Pacers, Carl Mann, Sleepy LaBeef, Sun session drummer and one of Riley's "Little Green Men" J.M. Van Eaton, saxophonist Ace Cannon, Johnny Cash's original drummer, W.S. Holland, as well as Little Rock native of "Susie-Q" fame Dale Hawkins.

"I grew up listening to these guys," Beutner said while outside.

While the couple saw Riley and his "Red Hot" performances several times at the annual Green Bay Rockin' 50s Fest in Wisconsin and other venues across the country, Barr said Riley, who often donned brightly colored sport coats and black and white loafers onstage, was always a "down-to-Earth" kind of guy whenever she and Beutner had conversations with him.

Billy Lee Riley "Red Hot"

Billy Lee Riley doing his hit record "Flying Saucers and Rock'n'Roll"

However, Riley's death at the age of 75 on Aug. 2 is something hard for Beutner to imagine when asked about how he felt upon hearing the news. "I could get tears in my eyes," he said.

Following his performance, Mann, who had a million seller with "Mona Lisa" on Sam Phillips' Sun label in 1959, said, "Billy Lee was a favorite of mine ... I used to do just about every one of his songs."

While a bittersweet day without Riley there to join him and others including "Cooter" (actor Ben Jones) and the "General Lee" from TV's "The Dukes of Hazzard," Mann said he was proud to have been a part of the musical celebration. It was also something he thought Riley, who also had hits with "Flyin' Saucers Rock & Roll" and "Trouble Bound," would have also enjoyed.

"I am just proud that we could all get together and help Joyce (Riley's wife) out," he said.

Even though there were plans to hold a benefit for Riley before his death, Mann said when he called Burgess to tell him the news that Riley had passed away, it was agreed that the show must go on, and would go on, to honor him and help his family with medical bills and other expenses.

"We wanted to do what we could to help," he said.

Rockin' Luke LeWolfe Stroud, a Jerry Lee Lewis-style piano player/vocalist, closed the benefit show with "Great Balls of Fire" and "Whole Lotta Shakin'." He was backed by Jeannie (drummer/vocalist Jean Hendrix) & the Guys (bass player Doug Greeno and lead guitarist Marcus Graddy) and Arkansas state legislator J.R. Rogers. (It was Rogers who introduced and pushed through legislation that designated the highway outside Rock'n'Roll 67 Highway.)

Meanwhile, fan and performer Teddy "Thunderbird" Hill of Sweden said being at Newport meant "the world."

"This day history is made," he said while mingling outside among the crowd. "Most of these people have been my heroes for 50 years or more."

As a fan of Riley's and other early rock'n'rollers since before high school, Johnny Sandberg, who arranged the Newport/Memphis trip for himself and others from Sweden, agreed.

"I know all these guys from collecting records," Sandberg said. What's hard is choosing a favorite.

"I couldn't make a list," he said, adding that he enjoys "all the guys from Sun Records."

"I love the music. This music."

From halfway across the world or 900 miles from Wisconsin, for Barr, there was no other place to be on a Sunday afternoon than in Newport, Ark.

"Music is worth traveling for," she said, smiling.

 

 

 

Sonny Burgess: Still Rockin'

Sonny Burgess and Dr Cecilia Netolicky  Uploaded 17 September 2009 

 

Biopic: Albert Austin "Sonny" Burgess (born May 28, 1931, on a farm near Newport, Arkansas) is a guitarist and singer of classic rockabilly music. In the early 1950s, Burgess played boogie woogie music in dance halls and bars around Newport. Burgess, Kern Kennedy, Johnny Ray Hubbard, and Gerald Jackson formed a boogie-woogie band they called the Rocky Road Ramblers. In 1954, following a stint in the US Army (1951-53), Burgess re-formed the band, calling them the Moonlighters after the Silver Moon Club in Newport, where they performed regularly. After advice from record producer Sam Phillips, the group expanded to form the Pacers. The band's first record was "We Wanna Boogie" in 1956 for Sun Records, in Memphis, about 60 miles east of his birthplace. The flip side was "Red Headed Woman." Both were written by Burgess. The songs have been described as "among the most raucous, energy-filled recordings released during the first flowering of rock and roll."[1] Their onstage antics in performance were similarly described. Burgess disbanded the group in 1971 but later found a new audience in Europe.[2]  Burgess was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame of Europe in 1999. His group, now called The Legendary Pacers, was a hit that same year in a rockabilly concert in Las Vegas, Nevada. It recorded Still Rockin' and Rollin' in 2000, voted the best new album in the country and roots field in Europe.[3]. The group was inducted in 2002 into the Rockabilly Hall of Fame, Jackson, Tennessee. Sonny Burgess and The Legendary Pacers performed at the 2006 National Folk Festival in Richmond, Virginia to large, enthusiastic audiences. Sonny Burgess hosts a weekly radio program called We Wanna Boogie with co-host June Taylor. The program, named after his first record, airs Sunday nights from 5-7pm Central Time on 91.9FM KASU in Jonesboro, Arkansas.
Extracted from Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonny_Burgess

 

 

Sonny Burgess grew up listening to Country Music[1] and Rhythm and Blues. In those days Rhythm and Blues was called "Race Music". It was played by black musicians. At the time, there wasn't much opportunity to hear live Rhythm and Blues in Newport, Arkansas[2]. 

"1955, when Elvis came along, everything changed, then there was Bill Haley and Blackboard Jungle with 'Rock Around the Clock', that started the Rock'n'roll craze". "I like fast music. Elvis' music really turned us on, so we wanted to get on Sun [Records]". "When we first got released on Sun Records we thought we'd reached the top of the world. Our first record with Sun was 'Red Headed Woman' and 'We Wanna Boogie' ".

"Sun Records didn't last too long, seven or eight years. It was like a shooting star, it burned bright for a short time. When Sam left, the magic went. Everyone tried to get on Sun, but Sam always wanted something different".

Sonny and Cecilia at the International Rockabilly Festival Jackson, Tennessee 2008

"Through Sun we got to play with all these guys: Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis, Carl Perkins, Roy Orbison, Johnny Cash and Billy Lee Riley. They were all super good, and all a bit different. Sam had been recording black music, when Elvis came in. Who would've picked up Elvis? He went in to cut a record for his Momma. Sam saw something in him. Sam wasn't looking for perfect. If it felt good, he'd put it out. On 'Whole Lot of Shakin' Goin' On' [Jerry Lee Lewis version] the drummer gets off beat. It didn't matter, it felt good".

"At Sun we'd just go in. They'd say, 'what you got for us?' We played what we played in clubs that went well. We played like we had an audience. With 'Red Headed Woman' we only did three or four takes. That was it. Jerry Lee said, 'if I don't get it in the first two tries we go on to something else". They liked the music to have the feeling of playing live, "not over worked, when it's really clicking and feels good".

"My favourite record was 'Restless'. We recorded this when I started whistling. Sam Phillips thought, for about two months, it would be bigger than 'Blue Suede Shoes', but it went up, then stalled".

"Most of the people who recorded for Sam came from farms. People ask, why so many good musicians came from round Arkansas, Missouri and Tennessee. It's not the water, we live a more laid back life. There was little radio, and no TV, and you didn't listen to radio much because your battery ran down".

It's great, "Sun Records has kept us playing for 50 years".

Sonny Burgess and The Legendary Pacers playing "Red Headed Woman" at the International Rockabilly Festival Jackson, Tennessee 2008

Interview with Sonny Burgess

Dr Cecilia Netolicky 16 September 2009

In the early days of Rock'n'roll did anyone use the term "Rockabilly" for the style of music you play?

I first heard the term "Rockabilly" long after we started. It was 15 or 20 years later. In the early days we called ourselves "Rock'n'Roll".

What do you see as the difference between early Rock'n'roll, and Rockabilly, music?

What I think of now as Rockabilly is a three or four piece band. Billy Lee Riley and my band were six piece bands. We  really weren't Rockabilly, we were Rock'n'roll. I remember Carl Perkins saying, "where did 'Rockabilly' come from?"

We never dressed like that either back in the 50s. You never wore blue jeans, check shirts and chains. Girls did wear poodle skirts. Guys tried to dress up when they went out. All these people now have tattoos. Then at most one or two guys, and no girls had tattoos. The guys all used Brylcreem.

How would you describe the early Rock'n'roll sound? What made it different to other contemporary music genre?

Most of the music that came out the South was fast music, with drums, a little heavier beat, and a lot more energy. Country artists playing at the Grande Ole Opry weren't allowed to use drums at first. They didn't use brass instruments either. That came from Rhythm and Blues. Most of the black artists had big bands. The music made you feel good, like you want to dance. Elvis brought it all together, but Carl Perkins always had more of a black music sound than Elvis.

Who were the artists you felt most honoured to play with?

The Original Pacers were always a fantastic group. They're one of best show bands I've ever seen in my life. Also the Sun Rhythm Section. And, Travis Wammack is one of the finest guitar players around.

What was it like touring in the 50s and early 60s?

We wound up buying a green Cadillac stretch limo. It was fun. We got to meet all different people. I don't like travelling, but I love the playing.

Why do you think you guys "made it" where others couldn't get their careers off the ground?

We were a little different. Everybody had a sax player then. Jack Nance was a music major. He had an old trumpet. We had a trumpet, not a sax. That gave us a different sound.

Would you ever have expected to still be playing Rock'n'roll to such large audiences, and to still be in demand, this far down the track?

I never expected to be playing this long, and I need something to do.

Is the interest in Rock'n'roll and Rockabilly music growing, or diminishing, in the South?

There are young people getting into it. Not as many as in Europe, Japan and Australia. Here there's more Rap and some Blues and Country. But there're plenty of good young musicians here.

What do you see in the future for Rock'n'Roll music in the South?

I hope it doesn't die out. There's going to be a change. The first big change came out of the 40s with the Big Band era, then Rhythm and Blues, then Elvis came along and changed the whole face of music, then The Beatles then Michael Jackson. No one changed things as much as Elvis. Now it's repeats, no real change, but something's coming. Rockabilly will be like Blues. There'll be revivals.

Sonny Burgess and The Legendary Pacers with Travis Wammack playing "Tear it Up" at The International Rockabilly Festival in Jackson, Tennessee 2008.


[1] Sonny's favourite performers: Big Joe Turner, "the premier blues 'shouter of the post war era' " (http://oldies.about.com/od/rbandblues/p/bigjoeturner.htm), "Shake, Rattle and Roll" 1954, "Flip, Flop and Fly" 1955, "Corina Corina" 1956 and Jimmy Reeves "I Love You Because" (a duet with Ginny Wright) and "Welcome to my World".

[2] Sonny remembers Louis Armstrong and Fats Domino both played at the Silver Moon in the early '50s

 

 

 

 

 

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