D&V List No.315
Date: Tuesday 13 July, 1999
Contents:
* In the context of the strong warning of the dream, this scripture implies that Australia would have had a chance given by the grace of God for His people to be established in the things of the kingdom which cannot be shaken. Looks like the Church in Australia is going to be judged for squandering such an opportunity - unless it repents of course! Dream by Kari Kennedy on 24th June, 1999.
* I was swimming with a couple of others on the open sea side of a wharf or large jetty. A storm suddenly appeared more or less beside us which was a tornado and it churned up the water and whipped it up into the air. We just watched it without being afraid and then we swam towards the beach. Dream for your interpretation from Paula received on 10th July, 1999.
* I wonder if the clothes changing has to do with a change in the prophetic
from what came forth originally in the 60's? The need to put on new garments
as we come into the latter half of '99 and then into the year 2000. Dreams and interpretation by Vicki Camp on 25th June, 1999.
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IN THE CONTEXT OF THE STRONG WARNING OF THE DREAM, THIS SCRIPTURE IMPLIES THAT AUSTRALIA WOULD HAVE HAD A CHANCE GIVEN BY THE GRACE OF GOD FOR HIS PEOPLE TO BE ESTABLISHED IN THE THINGS OF THE KINGDOM WHICH CANNOT BE SHAKEN. Looks like the Church in Australia is going to be judged for squandering such an opportunity - unless it repents of course! Dream by Kari Kennedy on 23rd June, 1999.
Subject: Dream for Australia
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:34:14 EDT
From: HESABIGGODdaystaraol.com
BACKGROUND
We know that the Year of Prayer for Revival ends July 14th
(Kari's 18th birthday) and we have joined in prayer to be praying during
these final 40 days for your country. What a season we are in!
DREAM OF 6/23/99: Kari Kennedy
(before going to sleep, I heard civil defense sirens in the spirit for about
an hour)
· Since you folks were praying for Australia the sirens would speak of warning to the churches of Australia.
I see Australia. Suddenly many tornadoes appeared and began to hit the land.
There were screaming people in the tornadoes and when the tornadoes
disappeared, everything in them disappeared also.
· Tornadoes are uncommon in Australia in the natural but I guess spiritual tornadoes are not so uncommon in any country. In the light of the warnings that are coming to the brethren in dreams, I would say that the tornadoes in this dream are speaking of deceiving teachings and works of the principalities and powers of darkness which have come to draw many away from the Gospel and the Spirit which is of God into apostasy.
People were cleaning up the devastation when a large earthquake hit and did much damage. The people were angry and frustrated. Then one huge tornado hit Australia. People were angrier. Then aftershocks or tremors began shaking the country.
The earthquake, huge tornado and aftershocks speak of major spiritual attacks on the Church in Australia that is going to bring about shaking and destruction of things that are not of God in the Church.
Heb 12:25
See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who
refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we
turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:
Heb 12:26
Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying,
Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.
Heb 12:27
And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things
that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which
cannot be shaken may remain.
· In the context of the strong warning of the dream, this scripture implies that Australia would have had a chance given by the grace of God for His people to be established in the things of the kingdom which cannot be shaken. Looks like the Church in Australia is going to be judged for squandering such an opportunity - unless it repents of course!
A town council came together to try to decide what to do and they decided they didn't want any help from other countries. So the entire population decided to work together to build the country back up.
· A concerted effort by church leadership is going to be put in place to rebuild the devastated Church without acquiring ministries from overseas to help. That is, Australian churches are not going to be relying on overseas ministers as they had done in the past.
As they began working, a massive number of black snakes began to crawl out of
the ground. The workers were being greatly hindered by the snakes. Then a large number of people began to be sick and they found it was from the
food. They thought it was spoiled food, but when they began inspecting it,
it was discovered that it was some type of bacteria in certain foods (one I
remembered was cucumbers) and that it was food from another country and it
was done on purpose to kill them.
· The massive number of end time deceiving and seducing spirits (black snakes coming out of the ground) and the poisonous doctrines of demons (bacteria in food) portray an apocalyptic type scenario of spiritual warfare against the Church.
1Tim 4:1
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some
shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and
doctrines of devils;
SCENE CHANGES:
I am in a church in Australia. Instead of pews, there are rows of fold-up
chairs. Instead of a pulpit, there was a fold-up chair. Instead of a piano
bench, there was a fold-up chair. There were many people coming in hungry.
They sat down and a senior pastor came up and sat in the chair at the front.
He began speaking but it was so dry that several got up and left and then
later, another group left.
· Here is an insight into the Church in Australia. The fold up chairs in the place of permanent church furniture depict a lax and holiday orientated attitude to church activities, especially by the leadership. This lack of desire and commitment for the reality of God and for the power and vitality of His life giving anointing is causing many to go about seeking wells of living water (spiritual churches)
Someone went and looked into the baptismal pool and the water was slimy
green and it had a black snake in it. The snake began to chase the person
who was yelling for help but being ignored.
· The baptismal pool represents the ministry of the Cross for death and resurrection. The slimy green water with a snake in it is portraying the demonic adulteration of the message of the Cross by selfist worldly teachings such as self esteem. Here the denying of oneself and the taking up of one’s cross to follow Jesus Christ into death and resurrection into heavenly places is not preached in conviction, faith and power. Here people earnestly needing and desiring the ministry of the Cross are only subjected to and pursued by deceiving and seducing spirits.
A huge tornado hits and utterly destroys the church. People are upset and are discussing amongst themselves how everything was based on the foundation of that church.
· Here we have a more direct pronunciation that the judgment of God upon the Church in Australia has/will come as a result of the Church being built upon the wrong spiritual foundation. This wrong foundation is the denying of the ministry of the Cross and the acceptance of the teaching and works of deceiving and seducing spirits of the darkness of this world. The right foundation is the foundation of the ministry, teaching and anointing of the apostles and prophets who are led of the Spirit. Christians are going to be very upset at the leaders who have led them astray to feed on the pastures which are of the spirit of this world.
SCENE CHANGES:
There are many people on a field that is paved. A person yells "WARNING",
but everyone is looking around confused about why he would be yelling
"Warning". END
· This last scene is emphasizing that the message of the dream is a warning to the Church in Australia. I suspect that the same warning is for the Church in every nation of the world.
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I WAS SWIMMING WITH A COUPLE OF OTHERS ON THE OPEN SEA SIDE OF A WHARF OR LARGE JETTY. A storm suddenly appeared more or less beside us which was a tornado and it churned up the water and whipped it up into the air. We just watched it without being afraid and then we swam towards the beach. Dream for your interpretation from Paula received on 10th July, 1999.
BACKGROUND
Yesterday I emailed all Daystar folks to pray for a word for NLA church as I was going to be speaking there this Sunday morning.
1st Scene
Sue (my wife) and I had bought this piece of land on the side of a hill which I thought was uppermost that was being sold on the hill. All the other sections of land on this estate were yet to be sold. We were returning to the land with the real estate man who was selling the land on the hill. We had thought that our house would have a good view and a nice breeze was blowing. It suddenly dawned on me that the estate was not steep enough so that our uppermost house would have both the view and the breeze blocked when the other houses would be built. I was disappointed in our purchase and when I looked at the land it was ordinary and unattractive to the kind of creativity that I wanted in a home property.
The real estate man then told us and the people that were there that he had sold the land at the top of the hill to someone and he wanted all of us to go and have a look at it. I was not happy that he had not told me about the estate on the very top of the hill when we were looking for land on this hill. I thought about swapping our land for one on the top but we had already paid for our land. I didn’t want to go and look at the top of the hill property at first but then decided to go.
The others had gone up on the real estate man’s truck and we had to walk. The way up was not easy as we had to negotiate gullies and steep terrain. When we got to the top of the hill estate the real estate man took us straight away to look at the top most property that he had sold. It was a perfect property for a creative and unique home. The home was being built around the large rock that was the highest point of the hill. The owner and his family were already landscaping and building the house. The real estate man took us to them and introduced us. There were other homes already established in this estate on the top of the hill.
Scene 2
I was swimming with a couple of others on the open sea side of a wharf or large jetty. A storm suddenly appeared more or less beside us which was a tornado and it churned up the water and whipped it up into the air. We just watched it without being afraid and then we swam towards the beach. When we were close to the beach a smaller tornado began to form close to me and I threw myself into it on the water. When under water I could feel the power of it which was greater than I thought. We were never afraid and made our way on to the shore.
Scene 3
I was helping in the construction of this fairly large low set building complex. I seemed to be at home with the folks building the house and was a leader here. I was on the roof which was almost completed and I was inspecting things when rain began to fall. I had to get down and saw Edon Nilsen (high school acquaintance) walking by down below. I told him that I needed help to get down because of my age. I then held on to the guttering and swung down by myself with Edon watching to catch me if I fell.
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I WONDER IF THE CLOTHES CHANGING HAS TO DO WITH A CHANGE IN THE PROPHETIC FROM WHAT CAME FORTH ORIGINALLY IN THE 60'S? The need to put on new garments as we come into the latter half of '99 and then into the year 2000. Dreams and interpretation by Vicki Camp on 25th June, 1999.
Subject: dreams of the old, and change of clothing coming ???
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 20:30:53 -0700
From: "Bill&Vic C." <VicJCdaystaremail.msn.com>
June 25 / 26
Circumstances:
In reality we have lost a remote control for our TV <grin>... and even in my
very thorough search I cannot find it anywhere!
first scene: I am looking down on both of my open cupped hands which are
full of 'old' remote control devices of all sizes (for TV's and etc.). I
know they are ones we have owned in the past, and I even recognize one in
particular, from quite some time ago, that has the letter portion 'rubbed
off' in certain areas, even as it did in reality. There must be four or five
of these in each of my hands! They are old non-working ones. I did spot then, on top, our missing newer / working SONY remote, and was excited to tell Bill, "I found it!"..as I awoke some at this point...
next: I was in a house that seemed to be our home, but was not similar at
all to our home in reality. I have to change my clothes (I do not know what
for though?) so I step into my bedroom. I see then that the whole wall of this room that faces the street is long glass window panels, with narrow strips of wood panel/frame between them - reminiscent of what was considered a 'modern' style of the early 60's........
I am perplexed as to how I can change clothes in here, as there are not
shades or drapes, and outside I see a long line of people, several bodies
wide, milling around a doorway next to this bedroom, just to the right as I
face these windows. They seem to be either waiting or slowly entering next
door - this attached shop or part of the house I'm in or whatever ??? .....
They are lined up for some big event though, this I know...
I walk to the window area and look at all these many folks outside, lined up
across the area of my own windows too, and then I notice a long planter
towards the bottom of these bedroom windows, inside, full of little green
healthy houseplants. I know I must water them and care for them, for I do
love them very much.
At one point several friends appear in the bedroom door area. One is Kim,
who is part of our church and works and ministers to 'street people' in
reality. I am so glad to see him here in the dream ( for in reality he has
moved to Idaho now to minister there, as someone has 'gifted' him an old
home in the country to use as a half-way type house for those who receive
Christ and need this!). He is smiling big, and we visit a bit then I
believe..... Another old friend appears, Bob, who I associate with the
prophetic, early on in my own training of Holy Spirit ( I have not seen him
or his wife in reality in quite a long time ) ..... He comes walking in from
the left area somewhere - not the doorway, that is.... (impossible :). We
know Bob and wife from the early 60's on ......
As I awake then, I have these really good and happy feelings about the
little green plants (for some reason!)...... I feel then, that they have
something to do with the prophetic (?), and that I can thank old friend Bob
for helping to plant the seeds originally ....
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some possible partial interp......
I'm not sure what the remote control devises in my hands were representing,
unless it was old useless prophetic heavenly communication, as they seemed
to be old non-working discarded ones, of times past......
I know the windows speak of revelation of Holy Spirit, and I wonder if the
crowds /line-up of people outside have to do with the coming harvest?
Kim may represent Evangelism, and our old friend Bob may represent the
Prophetic in this dream (as we originally met Bob, in the 60's too).
I'm not sure about the plants, but they may have to do with nurturing and
growing the good fruit of Holy Spirit revelation in this place of
dreams/visions (bedroom)? The bedroom is the place of receiving dreams.
The architecture of these windows, floor to ceiling, seemed to be of the
60's though, for sure ..... I definitely recognize this 'style' from that
time, in our area here, anyway......
I wonder if the clothes changing has to do with a change in the prophetic
from what came forth originally in the 60's? The need to put on new garments
as we come into the latter half of '99 and then into the year 2000, I mean ?
If this is the case, well, I never did manage to change my clothes in the
dream, but at least I was trying originally before all the visitors arrived
! <smile>........
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