D&V List No.336
Date: Tuesday 31st September, 1999
Topic:
More dreams focusing on the gathering of the apostles.
Contents:
* Great opposition to God’s chosen leadership of His Church but the Lord will intervene and vindicate those whom he has chosen causing them to totally trust in Him! Dream by Paula on 30th August, 1999.
* Presently Babylon is yet a child and she is about to grow quickly to fullness in evil in these last days. Your dream is warning of these things that you (we) may seek, prove and hold fast to that work of God that is genuine. In your dream we are being exhorted to come out of Babylon and have our hands cleansed from all manifestations of deception and sorcery, especially with respect to God’s apostles and prophets. Three short dreams by Vicki Camp on 25th August, 1999.
* From D&V List No.202 posted Wednesday 30th September 1998.
"The news was that the great, once in a lifetime event, that we had all been waiting for all of our lives was going to happen in a few days," is represented in your recurring dream by the newly purchased land called, "God's salvation." If you represent the apostolic/prophetic anointing and ministry of the late 1990's then this end time work of the Spirit is going to bring about God's salvation in the revelation or manifestation of the sons of God . Significant dreams by Jim Black on 25th September 1998.
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GREAT OPPOSITION TO GOD’S CHOSEN LEADERSHIP OF HIS CHURCH BUT THE LORD WILL INTERVENE AND VINDICATE those whom he has chosen causing them to totally trust in Him! Dream by Paula Cavu on 30th August, 1999.
Circumstances
The Daystar team got together for discussion of the gathering of the apostles, Daystar’s instructions for Fiji and prayer at last night’s BBQ.
The Dream
I was working with many men in a huge factory that was significantly important for the nation’s economy. We all wore white uniform and we gathered in the large meeting and dining hall. Everyone had a white piece of paper in front of them which had to do with membership and voting. Recently a number of us had been chosen from above for significant leadership positions but this was unsettling to some because they did not have a say in it.
While we were seated and talking, suddenly a group of men who were like chiefs of tribes and having significant influence here burst into the hall and announced that they were going to choose men for the positions that we were already given by the management or from above. They then walked through the crowd of men and proceeded to choose men for the positions. Those that were already chosen had our papers taken away and then everyone walked out of the hall except us because we were being imprisoned in this hall. The doors and all the windows were closed and locked.
We were then by ourselves and so we checked out the row of small windows just below the ceiling on the East side. At first no one found any way of opening the windows but then there was one and then two windows that were opened. The only barrier now were the bars on the windows. By this time the men outside were alerted to our advances and came over to stop us. There was no way for us to go out so I grabbed someone’s arm and pulled it through the bars and threatened to sever his arm if the doors were not opened. I held the man in an awkward position.
Scene change
I was at the front gate entrance to this huge factory complex where there was a great gathering of men from the factory and the public on the outside looking on. The leadership problem in the factory was being resolved by the Prime Minister who had come to reinstall the originally appointed leadership. The contenders were being admonished and were instructed to recognize the appointed leaders by placing laes (neck ornament of flowers) around their necks every morning when they walk through the front entrance for work. This will be done for a period after which the contenders will accept and be familiar with their leadership.
Scene change
I was then walking through a market place in Fiji. A man from my island greeted me and let me taste the tapioca bread (a favourite snack of mine)that he was selling. He broke a piece from a large lump that was wrapped in leaves and gave it to me. I wondered how he was going to sell the lump now. I tasted it and offered to buy the lump. I then turned to the table beside me where 4 (maybe 5) women were selling food. I asked one of the women for smoked fish and they gave me one which they opened up for me to taste. It was nice and fresh and I wondered whether I should have asked them the price of the fish first. Anyway I knew that I could trust these women. I noticed that they were young and beautiful women.
Scene change
Then I was back in the hall of the factory and I still held the arm of the man I had captured. The Prime Minister was present to resolve things. I was looking for a reassurance that things will be brought back to how they should be. The man I held suddenly made a move and used his other hand to take out a knife from his pocket which he just managed to hold at my throat. He said that he could have done this before. I was in some kind of precarious control in being able to twist the man’s body so that he couldn’t cut my throat. However, I let go of the man saying that I trusted the Prime Minister completely to get things done properly. I then woke up.
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PRESENTLY BABYLON IS YET A CHILD AND SHE IS ABOUT TO GROW QUICKLY TO MATURITY IN EVIL IN THESE LAST DAYS. Your dream is warning of these things that you (we) may seek, prove and hold fast to that work of God that is genuine. In your dream we are being exhorted to come out of Babylon and have our hands cleansed from all manifestations of deception and sorcery, especially with respect to God’s apostles and prophets. Three short dreams by Vicki Camp on 25th August, 1999.
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:15:13 -0700
From: "Bill&Vic C." <VicJCdaystaremail.msn.com>
CIRCUMSTANCES:
I have been thrilled in reading, and pondering the D&V list #333, I received
yesterday. This morning after arising about 5 A.M., I decided to lay back down before having to go to work this afternoon for a shift. I felt exhausted, and that
an hour or two sleep would be of great benefit. I have specifically asked
the Lord this past week or so, to give me dreams of what HE would like to
reveal to me, i.e. not what is on my own heart necessarily, but what is on
HIS heart........
As I drifted off to sleep 3 times !! ..... I was given 3 short dream scenes,
that seemed important.
Dream 1
I see a lovely mixed race adolescent girl. Draped around her neck and on
her left should and arm (the side I am observing her from, facing her left
side, more or less) are many many silver and gold colored chain necklaces,
all of different lengths and thickness, but delicate (i.e. not heavy or
thick cord) . She is outdoors in bright sunlight and these chains really
glow and shine as she seems to delightedly be fondling and fingering
them......they are very hodge podged in arrangement - not orderly, as a
child would be happy with :-)....also, it strikes me that they are not all
draped around her neck.....but laid over her shoulder, arm etc.
As I awake some, this little girl and her face are so very very real - like
I'm really seeing a real little girl of about age 10 or so. Her teeth are
large, the front top two large and pearly white, as she smiles. The way
adult teeth are in an adolescent whose body is not quite grown up into them
yet <smile>.
She is obviously, Oriental, Black, and Caucasian mixed race, as her eyes are
lovely dark slanted, her skin creamy mellow brown, her brown hair a thick
short mop extending out in great fullness on both sides of her face at about
ear level.
She was wearing a typical summer garb of black cotton tank top (sleeveless,
low neck), and I believe some pin-striped black and white summer
shorts.....for in the dream I was more centered on her face and the
jewelry......
I felt then, as my mind cleared from sleep some, that she represented the
'melting pot' of America, the many races represented in our country here,
that is......
Dream 2
I drift off to sleep again and am give a quick flash of the back of a
deck of cards, that then 'fan out'....this fades fast. Immediately I
then see an open left hand, palm up, very large and somewhat puffy hand
laying open (a male hand). The right hand then appears with index finger
pointing, which then taps the open palm several times - very pointedly
drawing my attention to this open left hand palm.......
As I awake some again, I have the sensing that fortune telling and occult
reliance upon cards and palm reading, etc., have just been depicted to me in
this short dream scene ...... magic / occult / or satan's religion.
Dream 3
Next attempt to nap: Drifting off to sleep.... I am just above a small
courtyard (as of fairly large flat stones, quite a smooth level almost like
cement, but not cement ? ) . Seems to be a bright sunny summer day . To my
left are a couple of white sheets on a clothes line, flapping in the wind.
But they do not seem large enough to be bed sheets, a little smaller, and I
think : Linens of some sort, like small table cloth size They are just
barely in my line of view, as the wind floats them back and forth over this
patio / court yard area.
To the right, back a ways and across this patio, is the corner of what seems
to be a stucco type building, probably a house - again I'm only able to see
part, the lower corner of this structure, and it seems to be a warm beige
color with pinkish tones, stucco or plaster (?). I'm thinking South Western
U.S. style house as I see this, in the dream. A neat well kept structure /
house, but not new or grand in any way .... simple.
My vision zooms in closer then, to see two fat, very shiny, good size black
ants (Pac. N.W. size and style ants :-) walking quickly across the stone of
this patio, towards the foundation of this simple stucco house. They are
meandering to the left and right as insects do, parting and coming back
together, even bumping each other in their quick walking, but obviously
making a bee-line (no pun intended :), for this building, where I think they
desire to enter the foundation area through some ant sized cracks and
crevices that I can see there between the stucco wall and the partially
buried foundation...... I know they are traveling together, these two.....
COMMENT BY PAULA
Interpretations of dreams are in the vocabulary, language and the spirit thereof. For example, "She is obviously, Oriental, Black, and Caucasian mixed race" could point more convincingly to Babylon, the Woman that "sits upon many waters" (nations/tribes/races/languages,Rev 17:15).
Rev 17:4
And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and DECKED
WITH GOLD AND PRECIOUS STONES AND PEARLS, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
Rev 17:5
And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
Isn't she the one that is given to deception and sorcery which is depicted by the hand of cards?
Rev 18:23
And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the
voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at
all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for
BY THY SORCERIES WERE ALL NATIONS DECEIVED.
Isn't she the one that murders God's servants whom she counterfeits in deception [two ants (false apostle and prophet) seeking to enter the foundation of the house through cracks] especially of "courtyard" Christians (Rev 11:1-2) and churches given to the lusts of uncrucified flesh as in selfishness, pride, jealousy etc?
Rev 18:24
And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all
that were slain upon the earth.
Presently Babylon is yet a child and she is about grow quickly to fullness in evil in these last days. Your dream is warning of these things that you (we) may seek, prove and hold fast to that work of God that is genuine.
Rev 12:9
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the
Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out
into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Rev 12:10
And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and
strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ:
for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them
before our God day and night.
Rev 12:11
And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of
their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
Rev 12:12
Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the
inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down
unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that HE HATH BUT A
SHORT TIME.
In your dream we are being exhorted to come out of Babylon and have our hands cleansed from all manifestations of sorcery especially with respect to God’s apostles and prophets.
Psalms 24:3
3. Who shall ascend into the hill of the LORD? or who shall stand in his holy
place?
4 He that hath CLEAN HANDS, and a pure heart; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully.
5 He shall receive the blessing from the LORD, and righteousness from the God
of his salvation.
6 This [is] the generation of them that seek him, that seek thy face, O
Jacob. Selah.
7. Lift up your heads, O ye gates; and be ye lift up, ye everlasting doors;
and the King of glory shall come in.
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FROM D&V LIST NO.202 POSTED WEDNESDAY 30TH SEPTEMBER 1998.
"The news was that the great, once in a lifetime event, that we had all been waiting for all of our lives was going to happen in a few days," is represented in your recurring dream by the newly purchased land called, "God's salvation." If you represent the apostolic/prophetic anointing and ministry of the late 1990's then this end time work of the Spirit is going to bring about God's salvation in the revelation or manifestation of the sons of God . Significant dreams by Jim Black on 25th September 1998.
Subject: dream about silver coins
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 21:59:35 -0500
From: "Jim Black" <jamesbladaystarflash.net>
Recurrent dream in September 1998:
This dream has been recurring. I recently purchased some land to live on.
I believe the name of this land is "God's Salvation". In my dream I am
trying to fence this property. I cannot get it fenced. I cannot get the
fence posts to stay in the ground. I cannot get the fencing to stay on the
posts. I cannot keep track of the fencing supplies. I am starting over,
and over, all night long, multiple nights in a row. This is beginning to
really aggravate me.
First dream on 25th September 1998:
I dreamed I was standing at the end of my church building talking to a woman who was the representative of the power company. We were discussing the possibility of increasing the electrical supply to my church. The woman indicated that it should be easy to do, but we would have to move the road to the church that ran alongside the end of the church over 20 feet. I said that would not be much of a problem since we owned the next 20 feet.
Then we looked and saw the church next door was sitting across the spot the road would have to use, really on the property belonging to my church. The woman indicated we would just have to make them move the church. I said No, I know that pastor and he is a good man and has worked hard for his church, and I would not be part of destroying his church. We would just have to find another way or give up increasing the electrical power to my church.
This is where I woke up.
Second dream on 25th September 1998:
The same night as above, I dreamed I was sitting at my table in my house.
The place was not especially fancy but my needs were being provided for.
The door opened suddenly and a relative of mine stood in the door. This was
one of my "rich relatives" who rarely even spoke to me. I knew I was
considered the "poor relative" and wondered why I had been visited. My rich
relative was excited and said he had good news and he just knew no one would bother to come by and tell me. He did not think we were really close but the news was important and since we were related he would let me in on the news. Somehow, I already knew what this news was but I did not say
anything.
The news was that the great, once in a lifetime event, that we had all been
waiting for all of our lives was going to happen in a few days. 25 cent
Silver Coins were earned by doing the will of God. We had to purchase our
admission ticket to this great event and the ticket price was 3 coin purses
filled with 25 cent silver coins. 5 cent and 10 cent coins could be
exchanged for 25 cent coins but there would be a charge for the exchange
resulting in some loss of value.
My relative showed me one of his coin purses. It was nearly full but largely 5 cent and 10 cent coins. He was confident that he could exchange these coins for 25 cent coins and by working extra hard for the days left in the large church he was in he would have the opportunity to earn more. He indicated that it had gotten more difficult to obtain the 25 cent coins or he would have been willing to let me help him and thereby earn my own ticket. I indicated that I knew I had put away some of the 25 cent pieces over my lifetime but I was not sure just how many I had since these coins only had value for this once in a lifetime event and I really did not think about them. He encouraged me to find as many as I could and to try to earn the shortfall before it was too late, and oh, by the way, do not waste your time at that small church you have always gone to, since you cannot possibly earn enough there to make the event in the time left.
After he left I began to dig around in my closet to find my silver coins. I
had some concern that I would not be able to purchase my ticket. It took me
some time to find the suitcases where the coins were stored in my closet. I
opened one suitcase and began to find 25 cent coins scattered here and
there. Soon I filled up one coin purse. I opened another suitcase and
found another coin purse full. In the third suitcase I found enough 25 cent
coins to fill three coin purses to where they were bulging and overflowing
with very little 5 cent and 10 cent coins.
My rich relative walked in the door just as I closed the last coin purse. His eyes almost popped out of his head at the sight of my bulging coin purses. Suddenly, I could read his thoughts. "How did this poor guy get all of those coins? He will not have to work at all to purchase his ticket and I will have to slave for days just to get my 3 purses barely full. I wish I could steal his coins but they will know at the ticket counter that the coins are not mine so I cannot steal them, they have to be earned." In an audible voice, my relative reminded me that the 5 cent and 10 cent coins would incur a charge for exchange to 25 cent coins and it was good that I had considered that and filled the purses to overflowing. I did not wish to hurt his feelings by showing him how very little of the coins were the 5 and 10 cent coins. He left saying he was happy I was going to make it and how sorry he was that it must have taken all I had to purchase the ticket.
As he left the knowledge suddenly came into my mind, that the amount of
coins that were stored in the closet were at least double what I had in my
hand, in fact, I now knew, there was an "inexhaustible" supply in the closet
because I had been earning 25 cent silver coins for most of my life whereas
my rich relatives had only been earning them for the last few days. I
suddenly realized I was the "rich relative" because I would always have my
needs met just as I had in the past. My riches were just stored up a little
different from that of my "rich relatives". I would always be able to reach
into the closet and find enough coins to meet whatever the need would be.
Comment by Paula M. Cavu:
Jim, I wonder if "The news was that the great, once in a lifetime event, that we had all been waiting for all of our lives was going to happen in a few days," is represented in your recurring dream by the newly purchased land called, "God's salvation." If you represent the apostolic/prophetic anointing and ministry of the late 1990's then this end time work of the Spirit of God is going to bring about God's salvation in the revelation or manifestation of the sons of God . The dream is warning the churches that this event is going to take place soon (in a few days).
This end time salvation or great harvest of the earth simply cannot be fenced in by any one denomination, group, creed, ministry or church philosophy (I cannot get the fencing to stay on the posts). It will break forth into the nations as the gospel of the kingdom is preached to all the nations of the world and then the end shall come.
The trial of your faith (encompassing love, grace & Godliness) was probably tested in your first dream of the 25th of September. You loved and thought of your neighbouring church pastor as more important than your need for more electrical comfort. Of such are the things of righteousness that contribute to your heavenly treasure of bags full of 25 cent silver coins. Conversely, he that hateth his brother is in darkness, opposes God and is a murderer!
Further insight by Jim Black:
Paula, I have carefully considered your brief interpretation and I have to
say that I agree with it. I think there may be something else though. My
inability to fence the property may be showing something important.
Assuming I do represent the Apostolic/Prophetic in this dream then the Lord
is saying that we will not be able to "fence" or "keep in" or "keep out" or
"contain" the Lord's Salvation. Salvation will be "boundary intolerant"
ignoring denominations, ignoring national borders, ignoring language
barriers or any other lines of demarcation we as humans may try to
establish. Interesting concept?
The coins represent the requirements for participation (ticket admission) in
the "great event". 5 cent coin (Grace), 10 cent coin (Obedience) and 25
cent coin (Repentance). The relative weights of each may be significant but
I have not yet deciphered that part of the message.
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