D&V List No.337

 

Date:   Friday 3rd September, 1999

 

Contents:

* A sure and mature attitude to personal guidance from the Lord involving God’s prophetic gifts locally and on the Internet for our instruction!

 

* "Those that know,know that they know that they know" is God’s exhortation for those that are hearing Him in mid 1999. Dream by Laura Willoughby in June, 1999.

 

* We were all working for the same cause – to help a colleague do a major project. It was hard work but the feeling was of unity as we were all working. Dream received in immediate response to prayer request by Kerry Porter on 29th August, 1999.

 

* The call of the ordinary man, who portrayed the Moses type New Testament apostles of the end times, to gather the next day is the declaration of these apostles that the time of bondage to the worldliness of Egypt/Babylon is over. That is, the time of salvation and deliverance in the quickening appropriation of the New Testament Covenant in Christ Jesus is at hand. Dream by 9 year old Sean Watson on 25th August, 1999.

 

* “What happened  in the days on Pharaoh and Moses is what is going to happen in America.” With the scenario given above, this declaration is good news for the Church in America and the rest of the world. Moses in dreams has been quite frequently equated with God’s end time apostles. We would therefore expect a company of apostles to be raised up in America for the deliverance of the Church from the power and influence of the spirit  and god of this world. Dream by Monica Ruiz on 1st September, 1999.

 

* Note for Ralph Mendelson at end of List.

 

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REQUEST FOR CONFIRMATION IN PERSONAL GUIDANCE

 

Date:   Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:28:48 EDT

From:  Tehillah77daystaraol.com

 

Good Morning!

 

I could use a little help with this.  If you get anything for me from the

Lord on this I would appreciate it. 

 

I am really seeking the Lord about whether or not I am supposed to

continue leading worship on a regular basis anymore.  The Lord will always

use me to lead worship, but I really have been feeling that it may be time to

step down from being in charge of it at our church.  I believe it may be

possible that the Lord has been trying to tell me something for a while.  I

want to obey!  I really don't have much say so anymore anyway.  Also, the

Lord has been sending me out a lot.  It is really hard to do it all.  I

actually feel I may be overdue in this, but I want to be sure.

 

HERE IS THE DREAM:

 

"Dr. Breen [an Ear, Nose, and Throat doctor here in Marksville]

put a long  thin probe with a light on it, down my throat to check my vocal

cords.  She     looked at them and said I must stop singing for 2 years."

 

She has told me in real life that my vocal cords are being overused. 

I've been having trouble with hoarseness.  Amazingly, it has been better

lately.  I have been clear as a bell!

 

Let me know what you think!

Thank you.  Hope all is well with you all.  In Jesus, Susan

 

REPLY FROM PAULA

 

Date:   Wed, 01 Sep 1999 17:32:36 +1000

From:  "P.Cavu" <Daystardaystaruq.net.au>

 

Greetings Susan:

 

>     I am really seeking the Lord about whether or not I am supposed to

> continue leading worship on a regular basis anymore.  The Lord will always

> use me to lead worship, but I really have been feeling that it may be time to

> step down from being in charge of it at our church.  I believe it may be

> possible that the Lord has been trying to tell me something for a while.  I

> want to obey!  I really don't have much say so anymore anyway.  Also, the

> Lord has been sending me out a lot.  It is really hard to do it all.  I

> actually feel I may be overdue in this, but I want to be sure.

 

A discussion on this is more for your pastor than for an interpreter of

dreams. As for the dream below, it agrees with the break you have been

considering. As far as hearing from the Lord in different credible ways

is concerned, having two or three witnesses is scriptural. After due

consideration and prayer that peace and confidence that is within you

concerning a matter is essential. Currently, I get this peace and

confidence more from dreams than from the other ways of hearing from the

Lord. So you see, the decision stops with you and the Holy Ghost!

 

BTW The 2 years in your dream does not need to be specifically 2 years.

It may only mean a short period of time adequate for your vocal cords to

recover completely. I suppose you can take the number 2 as referring to

division or separation. That is, separation from your current

commitment. Hope this helps!

 

CONCLUSION FROM SUSAN

 

Subject: Re: Decision

Date:   Wed, 1 Sep 1999 10:03:17 EDT

From:  Tehillah77daystaraol.com

 

Thank you Paula.  I have shared this with my Pastor and husband and we

are all praying.  They both also knew I was sending this dream to you.  So I

am well covered!  They were interested in what you saw also.  You are right

on to caution all of us about these things!

 

I have been praying for some time without sharing how I felt with anyone

at all except my husband.  I know better than to make a decision without my

Pastor's blessing.  I learned that years ago the hard way!  A few months ago

an intercessor at our church called me and said she was praying for me and

the Lord impressed her that He was moving me more into speaking and singing

outside of the church.  That the worship at church would decrease.  I was so

amazed as I had never mentioned anything to her at all.

 

Then 2 weeks ago a dear friend whom I also hadn't mentioned anything to had

this dream:

 

She dreamed that her sister Margaret and herself (my first name is MARGARET, only my Daddy called me that) were walking along a road.  Peggy  (the dreamer) was barefooted.  They came up to some boxes all packed on the side of the road.  Peggy stopped and said to her sister Margaret, "I wonder why Susan's boxes are packed on the side of the road?"

 

So, I am probably more likely to be too slow to act waiting for confirmation.

My Pastor and husband are praying as well.

 

Thank you so much for your help.  God bless you, In Jesus, love, Susan Riddle

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"THOSE THAT KNOW,KNOW THAT THEY KNOW THAT THEY KNOW" is God’s exhortation for those that are hearing Him in mid 1999. Dream by Laura Willoughby in June, 1999.

 

Date:   Tue, 24 Aug 1999 20:17:38 EDT

From:  LWILLOBEEdaystaraol.com

 

Dear Pastor Paula:

 

Greetings to you and yours today.  After I read list 333 today, I thought

that I should share some dreams that I had in June.

 

Dream one:(June,1999)

 

I was driving a car from the school of my first employment.  I stopped to

exit through a gate that in reality is not there.  As I began to leave I saw

a young woman coming out of a house on the corner.  The young woman was

carrying a book, and she had very blonde curly hair. In reality the house is

no longer there ,but was there when I was a child.  The young woman came to

the side of the car and said to me, "Those that know,know that they know that

they know."  I said to her ,"How do you know?" She looked at me with what were to me the bluest eyes I had ever seen.  She looked quite puzzled as to why I asked her that question ,  she tilted her head and gave a smile. 

 

The scene immediately changes and I am asleep in my bedroom and I am under direct attack by a small demonic force.  I thought at first that I was being hugged by my son ,but I saw what it was and I dug my hands into the body and I threw it off of me.  I could feel the mushiness of its body as I commanded it to get off of me, and I threw it bodily away from me.  I awoke from the dream.

 

COMMENT BY PAULA

The school does imply a place of learning and so this dream is giving a lesson. This is a lesson in faith which is a lesson in hearing and knowing God. Here, when God speaks to us we are of "Those that know, know that they know that they know." To question this faith that cometh by hearing God credibly, confidently and verifiably is to betray our lack of the faith that pleases God.  The dream is therefore a word of instruction to all Christians and especially prophetic Christians whom you represent in the dream.

 

Hebrew 11

6 But without faith [it is] impossible to please [him]: for he that cometh to

God must believe that he is, and [that] he is a rewarder of them that diligently

seek Him.

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WE WERE ALL WORKING FOR THE SAME CAUSE – TO HELP A COLLEAGUE DO A MAJOR PROJECT. It was hard work but the feeling was of unity as we were all working. Dream received in immediate response to prayer request by Kerry Porter on 29th August, 1999.

 

Circumstances:  Yesterday I spoke with Paula and Gavin about the Gathering of the Apostles. Gavin and I prayed about what part we were to play in this event.

 

Dream:

The room was like a big telethon.  There were rows of long tables that were on ground level at the front and got further off the ground as it went back.  We were all busy working. People from work were seated at these tables and while we were doing different jobs we were all working for the same cause – to help a colleague do a major project. It was hard work but the feeling was of unity as we were all working.

 

Interpretation:

The interpretation is obvious that Gavin and I as well as others in Daystar Ministry were to work behind the scenes to assist Paula to get to The gathering of the Apostles  in Anaheim next month.

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THE CALL OF THE ORDINARY MAN, WHO PORTRAYED THE MOSES TYPE NEW TESTAMENT APOSTLES OF THE END TIMES, to gather the next day is the declaration of these apostles that the time of bondage to the worldliness of Egypt/Babylon is over. That is, the time of salvation and deliverance in the quickening appropriation of the New Testament Covenant in Christ Jesus is at hand. Dream by 9 year old Sean Watson on 25th August, 1999.

 

Date:   Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:32:53 +1000

From:  Murray and Pam Watson <daystardaystaruq.net.au>

 

CIRCUMSTANCE

Yesterday Daystar Ministry first learned about the time and venue for the Gathering of the Apostles in Anaheim.

 

THE DREAM

I was an Israelite in Egypt at the time of Moses.  Pharaoh ruled the

land and he had soldiers who captured Israelites and made them a slave

or took them to Pharaoh who killed them.  When the soldiers were around

there was great fear but when they were gone it was peaceful.  In order

to hide from the soldiers each Israelite had small cubicles in which to

hide in when the soldiers came.

 

One day I was a long way from home with my Mum when the soldiers came.

So as to avoid detection by the soldiers my Mum and I jumped into the

river Nile which was deep and we stayed under water for hours.  While

under the water we somehow breathed but we did not breathe physically.

 

The next day while we were together with the Israelites an ordinary man

came up to us and said, " GATHER HERE TOMORROW BECAUSE GOD TOLD ME SO.” I thought he was going to lead us out the way Moses did.

 

INTERPRETATION

The Israelites of the dream portray apostate Christendom which is in bondage to the spirit and order of this world (Egypt/Babylon). The hiding place of the small cubicles speak of the place of intimate communion with God. The River Nile speaks of the hiding place in the teaching, guidance and comfort of the Holy Spirit no matter where we are in the time of trouble.

 

Psalm 32

6 For this shall every one that is godly pray unto thee in a time when thou

mayest be found: surely in the floods of great waters they shall not come nigh

unto him.

 7. Thou [art] my hiding place; thou shalt preserve me from trouble; thou

shalt compass me about with songs of deliverance. Selah.

 8 I will instruct thee and teach thee in the way which thou shalt go: I will

guide thee with mine eye.

 

The ordinary man represents the ministry of the Apostles who have

been given the instruction by God to lead His people out of Egypt/Babylon and apostasy.  The call of the ordinary man, who portrayed the Moses type New Testament apostles of the end times, to gather the next day is the declaration of these apostles that the time of bondage to the worldliness of Egypt/Babylon is over. That is, the time of salvation and deliverance in the quickening appropriation of the New Testament Covenant in Christ Jesus is at hand. Of such is the outworking of the end time Grace of God in resurrection power wherein no man can boast!

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“WHAT HAPPENED  IN THE DAYS ON PHARAOH AND MOSES IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN AMERICA.” With the scenario given above, this declaration is good news for the Church in America and the rest of the world. Moses in dreams has been quite frequently equated with God’s end time apostles. We would therefore expect a company of apostles to be raised up in America for the deliverance of the Church from the power and influence of the spirit  and god of this world. Dream by Monica Ruiz on 1st September, 1999.

 

Date:   Wed, 01 Sep 1999 14:10:21 PDT

From:  "monica ruiz" <m0n1qu387daystarhotmail.com>

 

I had a dream that I went to go visit a prophet friend of my mother's and

mine.  They work together in the ministry across the nation and soon to go

overseas.  Anyways, I was at the place they were staying at and noticed they

had the tv on.  They were showing a boxing match between a man and a woman. 

I didn't pay much attention to it and started to socialize with my mom. 

 

She was in front of a mirror putting on her eye makup when I asked her, "So mom, what has the Lord shown you?"  She paused at looked at me from the mirror and said, "I don't want to tell you because you'll cry."  I pleaded with her

and asked again and again she gave me the same response.  This happened

about 2 more times till she said, "okay, you want to know?... What happened  in the days on Pharaoh and Moses is what is going to happen in America.  I  paused for a long time.

 

Then the scene changed where I was in the same place but in the living room where the t.v. was on showing the boxing match which I paid no attention to.  I saw my mom looking out a big glass window with huge drapes.  She made just enough space for her face to fit so I wasn’t able to see what she was looking at.  I heard her say,  "OH MY GOSH!!"  I went to go look at what it was (this is in the day time) and I saw that it looked like nite time.  I looked up at the sky and I saw a THICK covering of BLACK clouds which made it look like nite time.  The clouds were moving in big waves.  As if you were on a scuba diving trip in the middle of a hurricane and looked up at the surface from the water below (below sea level).  That was how the sky looked.

 

Then I saw a face form from the sky only being able to see the eye sockets nose and mouth.  It was an angry face (demonic)the size of a city and it was chanting looking on the earth with an evil look.  I don't know what this was maybe you could help me out.

 

p.s.  the woman in the boxing match on t.v. starrted to speak in tounges.

 

COMMENT BY PAULA

 

If we look at the vision on the TV first we see a battle between the Church (woman who spoke in tongues at the manifestation of great evil) and her opposition ( man who represented Satan). Perhaps your Mum’s declaration speaks more specifically of the Church in America. That is, generally speaking Christendom in America ( as it is worldwide)  is like Israel in Egypt because it is under bondage and slavery to the spirit of the world as in seducing and deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons (1Tim 4:1-2).

 

“WHAT HAPPENED  IN THE DAYS ON PHARAOH AND MOSES IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN AMERICA.”

 

With the scenario given above, this declaration is good news for the Church in America and the rest of the world. Moses in dreams has been quite frequently equated with God’s end time apostles. We would therefore expect a company of apostles to be raised up in America for the deliverance of the Church from the power and influence of the spirit  and god of this world. This is he who manifested in the dream in the thick black waves of clouds.

 

The picture of the face which formed from the sky which had an angry face (demonic)the size of a city and which was chanting looking on the earth with an evil look portrays the god of this world who is ready for a fierce battle. Seems to me that folks within Christendom are about to take sides in this end time war according to the state of their hearts towards the Holy Spirit, Jesus and God the Father. The devil seems to know that the raising up of the apostles will represent his greatest threat! Nevertheless the battle has been won and the battle for us is a fight of faith. Here we appropriate by the confession of our lives and mouths that which Jesus  affirmed in His death and resurrection to seal the New Testament Covenant of God in Himself.

 

Luke 10:18-20

18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

 19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over

all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

 20 Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto

you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.

 

When the woman fighting on TV started speaking in tongues it means that she started calling on the name of the Lord in her total reliance on the Holy Spirit.

 

Acts 2:19

And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth

beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:

 

Acts 2:20

The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood,

before that great and notable day of the Lord come:

 

Acts 2:21

And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of

the Lord shall be saved.

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Note for Ralph Mendelson:

Your dream has been interpreted but I do not have your email address as it was sent through another name! Please get in contact with me - Paula.

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