D&V List No.344

 

Date:   Tuesday 21st September, 1999

 

Topic:

In God’s judgment division and separation is occurring within Christendom!

 

Contents:

I feel as though this university represents the kingdom of heaven. Here everything is pure and clean except for the old, dry and rotten wooden building right in the middle which represents apostate Christendom. The dream is thus emphasizing the fact that we live in the days of God’s judgment when division and separation is taking place within Christendom. Dream by Dawn Braun on 17th September, 1999.

 

Seems like the Catholic priest represents the power and authority of worldly traditional Christendom which is in apostasy from the richness of the life and enlightenment of the Spirit of God. This is the situation that prevailed during the reign of the Roman Catholic Church during the Dark Ages. Dream by 10 year old Nathalie Kaboha on 15th September, 1999.

 

 

The dream is serving notice that God's eyes for judgment are now focused upon materially rich, entertainment minded and commercialized Christendom.  Dream by Ralph Mendelson on 27th June, 1999.

 

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I FEEL AS THOUGH THIS UNIVERSITY REPRESENTS THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. HERE EVERYTHING IS PURE AND CLEAN EXCEPT for the old, dry and rotten wooden building right in the middle which represents apostate Christendom. The dream is thus emphasizing the fact that we live in the days of God’s judgment when division and separation is taking place within Christendom. Dream by Dawn Braun on 17th September, 1999.

 

Subject: DREAM OF CLIMBING A ROTTING BUILDING

Date:   Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:36:32 -0400

From:  Dawn <honeydoodaystarsaa.net>

 

I dreamed I was with someone or following someone. I don't know who, it

was a woman and she was ahead of me. There was also a man with me. We

were on our way to a meeting to hear a speaker The woman had a clipboard

in her hand leading us. We were at what looked like a university. Everything was nice and clean.

 

We came to a wooden building that was on the property. It seemed to be

right in the middle of this university. For some reason, what ever that might be, we could not enter on the side that had a door. I'm not sure what happened to the woman but I and the man that was with us had to climb the wall in the back. It had old wooden boards  and I thought to myself, and said it out loud, " I

think I've been here before," As we started to climb this "shack" looking building, board by board, I noticed that it was really old and dry. I would be alright, but when the man behind me climbed higher I could see that the wood that was holding this building together was rotten and was falling off, so I told the man, "watch out, this is rotting wood". The wood would fall off, crack, and splinter, even break in half and I could see that the inside structure and foundation was

rotten.

 

As we climbed this structure, I wondered to myself why they had

built this building this way? Why was there not a door where people

could enter in the back and why were'nt we able to go to the front and

instead forced to take the hard way and climb that old dirty rotting

building? As I awoke we were still climbing and it appeared that there

wasn't even an entrance to this building. END OF DREAM

 

I feel as though this university represents the kingdom of heaven. Here everything is pure and clean except for the old, dry and rotten wooden building right in the middle which represents apostate Christendom. The dream is thus emphasizing the fact that we live in the days of God’s judgment when division and separation is taking place within Christendom.

 

Matt 13:30

Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest

I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and

bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

 

Matt 13:47

Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into

the sea, and gathered of every kind:

 

Matt 13:48

Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and

gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away.

 

Matt 13:41

The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out

of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

 

Matt 13:42

And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing

and gnashing of teeth.

 

Matt 13:43

Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of

their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

 

The Church has some false doctrines, legalism and religion that has been taught for years. It has forced people to take the hard way, especially religion and legalism. Those doctrines are rotten. The very foundation of these doctrines  are rotting and are in fact beginning to fall apart. Instead of allowing people to serve the Lord in peace, joy and love, they have forced a hard cold religious, legalistic doctrine upon people and shut the door on God's goodness and his power.

 

John 10:1 " Verily, verily I say unto you, He that entereth not by the

door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a

theif and a robber, but he that entereth by the door is the shepherd of

the sheep;

 

The thief and the robber here is "old time religion".

 

John 10:9 " I am the door; by me if any man enter in he shall be saved;

and shall go in and out, and find greener pasture."

 

2 Timothy 3:5 "Having the form of godliness but denying the power

thereof, from such turn away."

 

In the end of the dream I noticed that a door was not even provided.

 

Matt 13:12

For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more

abundance: but whosoever hath not, FROM HIM SHALL BE TAKEN AWAY EVEN THAT HE HATH.

 

The woman who is the leader could represent the Jezebel Spirit who makes

things look good but on the inside she is full of the devil and deceit

and is ready to lead you into a place where it is cold and legalistic. I

noticed that she disappeared and was of no help to us whatsoever.

 

I feel like I represented the Christian who's only desire is to follow

the Lord and will go to any heights to do so. I also represent that one

who would question leaders to why they cause the people to be in

bondage, and won't make an easier way to serve God. God allowed me to

see this rotting structure. I worry about the churches condition.

 

The man behind me could represent the one who would follow and go into

this type of religiosity out of need but don't recognize any of this

legalism (rotten wood). I had to warn him , he didn't see it for himself.

People who are in legalism think they are doing the right thing, by

keeping all their religious traditions and ideas. These idols are about

to fall apart.

 

Idol worship, legalism, and religion is rotting and crumbling at it's

very core, soon to be exposed for what they really are.

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SEEMS LIKE THE CATHOLIC PRIEST REPRESENTS THE POWER AND AUTHORITY OF WORLDLY TRADITIONAL CHRISTENDOM which is in apostasy from the richness of the life and enlightenment of the Spirit of God. This is the situation that prevailed during the reign of the Roman Catholic Church during the Dark Ages. Dream by 10 year old Nathalie Kaboha on 15th September, 1999.

 

Author: "OMEGA" <omegadaystarvanuatu.com.vu>

Date:       15/09/99 11:46

 

Dear Paula,

 

Hello again. Just a quick note before we forget this last dream.

Nathalie (our 10 year-old daughter) had it last night.

 

We had a flat in town and we were looking for land/house on the other side of

the island, which looked a bit like Pacific Harbour, in Fiji, but on the island

of Efate (where we live in reality)in Vanuatu.

 

·        Looking for land/house on the other side of the island may be referring to the family looking for a church (spiritual house/home) away from where you have been worshipping.

 

There was a catholic priest who wanted the whole place to become catholic and

everyone had to have shoes, clothes, etc that fitted them exactly. If they did

not have such clothes which fitted them perfectly, he said he would burn these

people.

 

·        Seems like the Catholic priest represents the power and authority of worldly traditional Christendom which is in apostasy from the richness of the life and enlightenment of the Spirit of God. This is the situation that prevailed during the reign of the Roman Catholic Church during the Dark Ages. The emphasis on outward uniformity represents the attempt of the spiritually blind, or the deception of the blind to fulfill inward “unity of the spirit” and “unity of the faith.” The power and authority of worldly traditional Christendom seeks to control and dominate.

 

He found a small orange T-shirt in our house which belongs to Nathalie's doll and said he was going to burn Nathalie because it did not fit her and was too

small for her. Nathalie said "no it belongs to my doll, not me." To which the priest answered, "well, we'll see, try it on your doll. If it does not fit her, I'll burn you". He tried it on the doll that Nathalie's grand-mother (my mother) gave her. It fitted the doll. He left.

 

·        The above section of the dream emphasizes blindness, lack of wisdom and lack of reason that constitutes the superficial and vain spirituality that is in worldly religious traditionalism.

1John 4

3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the fles

is not of God: and this is that [spirit] of antichrist, whereof ye have heard

that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

 4. Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater i

he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

 5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world

heareth them.

 6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God

heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

 

He came back to our house one day and said "the whole of Efate is now Christian

(he meant catholic)" and Nathalie said "no, all the monks are too busy counting

their money. They don't see how unchristian people are around us, going to

discos, etc, because they are too busy with their money". The priest replied: "no this is not true". Nathalie said: "come and see for yourself." He saw that this was really happening and said: "how come my monks are not doing anything about these people". Nathalie said: "they are too busy counting the money they have stolen from people". END OF DREAM

 

·        This last section of the dream reveals the blind and vain presumption that worldly religious traditionalism has concerning Christianity. It is of the world and therefore assumes that worldly Christian pretenders are true Christians (followers of Christ). Furthermore the dream is pronouncing an indictment from the Lord concerning those that make merchandise of God’s people who believe in Christ! In this the dream agrees with the warnings in the dreams of Christians from around the world that is proclaiming God’s judgment upon Christendom given to commercialism.

 

1Tim 6

10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted

after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with

many sorrows.

 11 But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness

godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.

 12 Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou

art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.

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THE DREAM IS SERVING NOTICE THAT GOD'S EYES FOR JUDGMENT ARE NOW FOCUSED UPON MATERIALLY RICH, ENTERTAINMENT MINDED AND COMMERCIALIZED CHRISTENDOM.  Dream by Ralph Mendelson on 27th June, 1999.

 

Date:   Fri, 27 Aug 1999 05:51:29 -0700

From:  "rogelio rodriguez" <ralphmendelsondaystarccnmail.com>

 

This dream I had on Sunday morning just before waking up.  It was in very sharp detail and clear colors.

 

I was involved in some sort of dispute with the local power company over a bill.  I believe that I was being charged too much.  I lived in a small town and when I went to complain,  I got the impression that people were surprised that I would complain.  Evidently no one ever complained. 

 

A small town lawyer came to my defense.  He was very knowledgable and a fighter for the people.  While not the type to raise his voice,  he knew when he had to do it and he raised his voice loud above the rest of the people to demand that we enter in the door to this power company.  We had been in a small humble waiting room.  There was a glass window like you see at some drive thru banks and next to it was a completely clear heavy duty glass entrance door electronically secured.  As we entered in through the clear glass door, our first stop was to a small office to the right of the small non-descript hallway.  There were 2-3 people sitting there chatting with a secretary. 

 

They first told me that I could not do what I wanted to do but then my advocate raised his voice and demanded it.  A man in 1950's era clothing immediately  jumped up to offer help.  He would take me to see the owner himself.  The man's clothes were semi-casual with some orange color on his shirt.  He reminded me of someone who worked as a salesman (jumping up quickly to help a customer).  My advocate had received the owner's name.  Sorry I didn't quite catch it.  Just look in the phone book.  This owner was obviously a busy powerful man, not used to seeing people like myself but we were on the way to see him.  As the man in 1950's era clothing led us thru a second secured glass door, I remarked, "Boy, they sure have good security here." 

 

We then turned right and proceeded into a much more lavish area.  The hallway was wider now and there were expensive  12x12 stone tiles all the way up the sides of the hallway walls.  As we walked along, I excitedly told my wife that we used to walk along a hallway like this as we went back and forth to our working areas when I worked at the phone company.  This was before I had ever met my wife.  I even pointed out that the dimensions were exactly the same and described my former workplace's hallway exactly in detail just before rounding a bend in the hallway which turned out to be identical to what I had just finished describing.  (Now in real life, I used to work in a phone company but we never walked hallways even remotely similar to this)  This was much more luxurious than my previous employment.  It was only similar in the design and dimensions of the hallway, not in the way it was decorated. 

 

To my right I saw a game room with very high ceilings.  It even had a small second level in the back.  The outside was all glass and I could clearly see children playing electronic games.  Gameboy jumped into my mind.  I remarked out loud, " I can't believe it, these people have their very own mall in here! "   It just hit me like that.  I was in an area only allowed to employees.  It was luxurious and I mean very luxurious like an exclusive mall  or area which is highly upscale.  Some areas were darkened, expecially a large meeting room just before and next to the area of the gameroom. 

 

On my left, I saw some preparations, again behind glass walls,  of some kind of shop possibly clothing that was going to be opened and where they would take care of customers.  As we turned left at the game area and then again right.  We passed a bank like you see in a shopping mall.  The back wall was all tellers and cherry wood from floor to ceiling.  Very rich looking. 

 

It was Christmas time.  Little white lights on top of dark green artificial Christmas tree branches.  Brass posts marked areas on the floor where the employees would wait in line.  They were all dressed expensively.  One woman with a dark coat and dark hair had a long green artificial Christmas tree garland wrapped around her shoulders and her neck as decoration.  She too was waiting in line.   A woman with a lot of white packages with red ribbons wrapped around them walked in front of us going over to the bank.  She was leading a small child by the hand with some difficulty as the child was pulling against her. 

 

We continued walking and came to an area that I mentally called " Grand Central Station ".  It was very crowded there but still luxurious and tiled with lots of stone work.  There were some very wide steps leading up to a second level entrance to the street and people were going in and out.  I saw in the crowd someone who had just come down the stairs from the street level.  He reminded me of an unsaved friend, an intelligent man and a grandson of a minister.  He was yelling " Diane, Diane, over here! "  A woman went to meet him and they talked.  I was standing next to them.  She seemed to be an old girlfriend of his and was upset about something.  He had to leave and he kept saying, " I know, I know Diane but I have to go. "  As I stared intently at my friend to see if it was him.  I saw that it wasn't really him but only someone who had his countenance.  He might have been an Irishman.  He was in the process of turning to go up the stairs to leave when this dream ended.

 

THE FOLLOWING IS JUST SOME RANDOM NOTES OF MINE.

I am very new at dream interpretation but if the power company represents a

wordly organization that started in the 50's, then I feel that this dream is a warning to get out of that system.  I also feel that it calls us to challenge that organization with the truth.  In this dream, there is obvious construction going on.  This construction is geared towards providing services to the employees of this organization.  The start of this organization was very humble (the initial waiting room and small informal office at the beginning).  Now it is a very rich organization.  These employees feel privileged to work there.  What I did is foreign to them (No one had ever complained).  While I don't know the name of the owner of this organization, my advocate does.  He will be with us as we confront the owner as to why we are being charged so much. 

 

The woman with the packages represents then current church who is in charge of the J generation until the time they are ready to receive their inheritance as sons.  She is currently working for this organization. As my water baptism class tells me, Jesus was water baptised after he had turned thirty.  It was only after he had underwent water baptism that he performed any miracles.   

 

COMMENT BY PAULA

I went back and read the D&V Lists around the time of this dream and some dreams at the time were speaking of God's judgment upon Christendom. This confirms your interpretation. The dream is serving notice that God's eyes for judgment are now focused upon materially rich, entertainment minded and commercialized Christendom. This brings to mind the following scripture:

 

Rev 3:14

And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These

things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning

of the creation of God;

 

Rev 3:15

I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou

wert cold or hot.

 

Rev 3:16

So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will

spue thee out of my mouth.

 

Rev 3:17

Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have

need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and

miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

 

Rev 3:18

I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest

be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the

shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with

eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

 

Rev 3:19

As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and

repent.

 

Rev 3:20

Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and

open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he

with me.

 

Rev 3:21

To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even

as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

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