D&V List No.346
Date: Tuesday 28th September, 1999.
Topic
First report from the West Coast Anaheim Hotel from Jim Black and Paula
Cavu.
Contents:
Gods end time apostles and prophets will have no fear in the face of
threatening difficulties and instability in the work of the ministry.
They will closely identify with the Church as family and they will be
overcomers in every area of their lives and ministry. Dream from Jim
Black on 25th September, 1999
I heard the voice of the Lord say, "Who will stop this carnage, Who can
I send?" I said, "Send me Lord, I will Go if you go with me." Here it
is clear that Jim Black is portraying the apostles and prophets of the
late 1990s who are going to go forth and bring the Church to God’s
order. Dream from Jim Black on 19th September, 1999 and interpretation by Paula
The Church building that was destroyed leaving nothing but the
foundation. Dream from Elvin Black on 19th September, 1999.
The rectangular container filled with water on an altar represents that
which is of the Godhead (rectangular container), that which is filled
with the Spirit (filled with water) and that which is of the offering
unto God (on an altar). That is, the fellowship and sharing of Jim and
Paula around divine revelation, insight and knowledge relative to God’s
will and purpose in dreams, visions and prophecy was made in the
presence and inspiration of the Holy Spirit. This glorifies God. Dream
by Jim Black on 26th September, 1999.
COMMENT AND REVELATION INSIGHT BY JIM BLACK FROM ANAHEIM:
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GOD’S END TIME APOSTLES AND PROPHETS WILL HAVE NO FEAR IN THE FACE OF THREATENING DIFFICULTIES and instability in the work of the ministry. They will closely identify with the Church as family and they will be overcomers in every area of their lives and ministry. Dream from Jim Black on 25th September, 1999.
Circumstances: Paula and I, co-labourers of Daystar Ministry, met last
night for the first time in the flesh. We talked much and prayed about
The Gathering Of The Apostles which is to begin Monday morning at 10am.
Dream: I was in a very large building, a skyscraper made of wood.
There were children running around everywhere.
· Large building skyscraper made of wood - Christendom which largely of
the flesh and of the world (wood).
· There were balconies, which were loose and shaking in the breeze and
staircases almost falling down. - The state of deteriorating Christendom
which is in apostasy.
I was the apprentice of a Master Carpenter. We had the contract to make
the building safe for the children.
· The Master Carpenter - Jesus Christ the Head of the Church.
· I was the apprentice - Jim representing the apostles who are going to
gather at West Coast Anaheim Hotel from Monday to Thursday.
· Contracts to make the building safe for the children - Gods apostolic
appointment to repair and restore the Church for the sake of the
survival and security of Gods children.
I was climbing on these staircases and balconies with no fear of the
height at which we were working. Neither was I fearful of the degree of
instability in what we were working on.
· Gods end time apostles and prophets will have no fear in the face of
threatening difficulties and instability in the work of the ministry.
As this job was expected to take some time to complete we had been given
sleeping quarters in the house with the family.
· God's apostles and prophets will closely identify with the Church as
family.
I marvelled upon waking up that I was able to work at the heights and in
the conditions I was working in without my acrophobia, which
immobilised me in a previous dream, hindering in any way.
· God’s end time apostles and prophets will also be overcomers in every
area of their lives.
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I HEARD THE VOICE OF THE LORD SAY, WHO WILL STOP THIS CARNAGE, WHO CAN
I SEND?
I said, 'Send me Lord, I will Go if you go with me.' Here it is clear
that Jim Black is portraying the apostles and prophets of the late 1990s
who are going to go forth and bring the Church to Gods order.
Dream from Jim Black on 19th September, 1999 and interpretation by
Paula.
I was in the back seat of a vehicle which was driving down a multi-lane
highway. The driver of the vehicle was a previous job manager of mine.
· Jim - Being the dreamer Jim is representing the apostles and prophets of
the late 1990s, a large number of whom are coming to the Gathering of
the Apostles in Anaheim.
· Vehicle - church ministry
· Driving down multi-lane highway - progress of the church in the work of
the ministry.
· Driver previous job manager - Depicting Church leaders of the old order
who are not quickened into the late 1990s apostolic and prophetic
anointing.
· In the back seat - As with Jim, many of God’s anointed for the end time
ministry are yet under the leadership of those who are of the old order.
We saw a body laying in the middle of the freeway. Then there began to
be more bodies and vehicles involved in multiple collisions all over the
freeway.
· Multiple vehicle collisions on highways has been a common language of
recent dreams that were depicting Gods judgment upon Christendom. In
this dream it highlighted the fatal casualties of many lives that
have resulted and will result from the crash of many ministers and
leaders of the old order. These are those who are not able to hear the
current and direct teaching and leading of the Holy Spirit.
[A case in point is the quickening and revelation of the Holy Spirit
regarding the bread and wine communion which prophetic folks of the late
1990s have received. Of such is the heavenly enlightenment that feeds
the faith that was once given to the saints (Jude 3) which is preparing
the way for the going forth of Gods end time apostles and prophets.]
1Cor 11:26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye
do shew the Lord's death till he come.
1Cor 11:27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this
cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of
the Lord.
Cor 11:28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that
bread, and drink of that cup.
1Cor 11:29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, EATETH AND
DRINKETH DAMNATION to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.
1Cor 11:30 FOR THIS CAUSE MANY ARE WEAK AND SICKLY AMONG YOU, AND MANY
SLEEP.
2Peter 3 : 16 As also in all [his] epistles, speaking in them of these
things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which THEY
THAT ARE UNLEARNED AND UNSTABLE WREST, AS [THEY DO] ALSO THE OTHER SCRIPTURES, UNTO THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION.
17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know [these things] before, beware
lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from
your own steadfastness.
18 But grow in grace, and [in] the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour
Jesus Christ. To him [be] glory both now and for ever. Amen.
The driver would say "Oh, look at that one", and "That’s terrible", but
things began to get just sickening and he began to shudder and shake and
cringe at the sights we were seeing to the point he began to go into
shock. I was appalled at what I saw, and sickened. He kept on driving,
dodging bodies and other vehicles as best he could but the sound of the
thump of the bodies as we drove over them was more than I could stand,
so I asked him to stop and let me out. He ignored me as he was in
complete shock now driving by instinct alone. He finally slowed and
drove close to the edge of the road, so I jumped out of the vehicle.
· The above section of this dream dramatically depicts the pathetic
impotence of those who are o f the apostate ministries of the old order
with regards to what they can do about those that they are helping to
destroy. Certainly, they are not ministering the life of Christ but in
their carnality, worldliness and blindness to the direct teaching and
leading of the Holy Ghost they are ministering death!
Rom 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the
flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
Rom 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually
minded is life and peace.
Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not
subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
Rom 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that
the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of
Christ, he is none of his.
I woke up at this point. I heard the voice of the Lord say, "Who will
stop this carnage, Who can I send?". I said, "Send me Lord, I will Go
if you go with me." I went back to sleep.
· Here it is clear that Jim Black is portraying the apostles and prophets
of the late 1990s who are going to go forth and bring the Church to Gods
order.
Isaiah 6: 8 Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, "Whom shall I
send," and "who will go for us?" Then said I, "Here [am] I; send me."
I was running down the same freeway against the traffic. Every one I
touched immediately was raised from the dead, with severed limbs
restored. I was stopping some of the vehicles but some were going on in
spite of my best efforts to get them to stop. End of dream
· Running down the same freeway against the traffic - Gods apostles and
prophets of the late 1990s are going to run against the traffic of old
order ministries and churches which they are going to be in
confrontation with.
· In the special resurrection power anointing of God’s end time ministers
they are going to bring life, restoration and healing to the people of
God that are caught up in the church order which is of selfism and of
the spirit of this world.
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THE CHURCH BUILDING THAT WAS DESTROYED LEAVING NOTHING BUT THE FOUNDATION.
Dream from Elvin Black on 19th September, 1999.
I was watching a church building. I turned my head away and when I
turned back the building was gone. There was no sound of demolition, or
destruction or anything else. The building simply vanished. All that was
left was the foundation.
· This speaks of God’s judgment upon Christendom which will reveal or
expose His foundation ministries of end time apostles and prophets
through whom He will build His glorious Church.
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THE RECTANGULAR CONTAINER FILLED WITH WATER ON AN ALTAR REPRESENTS THAT WHICH IS OF THE GODHEAD (rectangular container), that which is filled with the Spirit (filled with water) and that which is of the offering unto God (on an altar). That is, the fellowship and sharing of Jim and
Paula around divine revelation, insight and knowledge relative to God’s
will and purpose in dreams, visions and prophecy was made in the presence and inspiration of the Holy Spirit. This glorifies God. Dream by Jim Black on 26th September, 1999.
Circumstances - Had an afternoon nap on Sunday at the West Coast Anaheim
Hotel after a lengthy time of sharing and discussion with Paula. Here,
as we did yesterday, we shared on the apostolic and prophetic ministries
and today we particularly focused on t he unchecked and unproven
muddying and abuse of much of the prophetic gifts and ministries of the
old order through selfist misuse, pretension and presumptions. This has
covered the whole prophetic ministry in general with a dark cloud of
incredibility with regards to the gifts themselves and to the heart and
character of the personnel.
FIRST DREAM: I dreamed that on Saturday I gave Paula a flower and then
today I gave him another flower. The flowers came out of a rectangular
container, filled with water on an altar. The flower I gave Paula today
was a lotus flower and it was dying or dead. I was trying to determine
if the flower was killed before I gave it to him or after. I was also
trying to discover who had killed the flower.
· The flower most aptly symbolises that which glorifies God in maturity
and bring praise and honour to Him in the unsurpassed beauty of the
architecture, colours, texture, and fragrance thereof. In the context of
the circumstances and dream, the rectangular container filled with water
on an altar represents that which is of the Godhead (rectangular
container), that which is filled with the Spirit (filled with water) and
that which is of the offering unto God (on an altar).
That is, the fellowship and sharing of Jim and Paula around divine
revelation, insight and knowledge relative to God’s will and purpose in
dreams, visions and prophecy was made in the presence and inspiration of
the Holy Spirit. This glorifies God and was portrayed in the flower,
which Jim gave to Paula on Saturday.
Trying to find out who killed the flower is the process in the
discussion and accompanying dreams, visions and prophecy which would
lead to identifying the cause of the apostate fruit of the old order
prophetic ministry.
· The flower that Jim gave to Paula on Sunday again portrayed the
fellowship and sharing which they had in the presence and inspiration of
the Spirit. They were particularly focused on the unchecked and unproven
muddying and abuse of much of the prophetic gifts and ministries of the
old order through selfist misuse, pretension and presumptions. The dead
flower therefore depicted the fact that these apostate activities of the
old order prophetic will be judged and destroyed.
SECOND DREAM: I saw a field that was triangle shaped. The field was
burned black. The field was surrounded on two sides by 9 billboards.
Each billboard was a different geometric shape.
· This second dream is basically a repeat of the first but with a little
more detail. The two times giving of the message of these dreams says
that the message is established in God and that it will take place
shortly.
· Here the rectangular field that was burnt black represents Christendom
under the Godhead which is being judged.
· The 9 bill boards of different geometric shapes portray the biblically
identified 9 gifts of the Spirit which have different manifestations and
different ministrations.
1Cor.12 4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.
5 And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord.
6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which
worketh all in all.
7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit
withal.
Each bill board had a different flower embossed on the billboard.
· Each gift of the Spirit was purposed to give glory, honour and praise
unto the Lord.
At first the bill boards and flowers were in colour, then suddenly they
looked as if they had been burned or perhaps drawn in charcoal.
· The operation of the gifts of the spirit in the old order ministries
(billboards) will have the colour and life taken out of them in the time
of judgment.
That lotus flower on the bill board on the left apex of the triangular
field and facing into the field was the flower which had been killed and
which I gave to Paula on Sunday.
· Relative to the circumstances of this dream this gift of the Spirit (the
left apex of the triangular field) is most likely of the revelation gift
of the Spirit in visions in the conscious state which has been sorely
misrepresented to be from the Holy Spirit. They have largely been
unchecked and unproven and will be judged. The lotus flower is symbolic
of Eastern Mysticism and represents the influence thereof and the
influence from the spirit of the world in the prophetic ministry of the
churches.
· The billboard and flower at the top apex of the triangular field was the
inverse of the billboard and the flower which had died. - This gift of
the Spirit which is an inverse of that which was judged appear to be the
restoration of the genuine revelation gift of the Spirit in divine
visions of the conscious state. This agrees with other dreams that have
been posted on the D&V List which implied that divine visions of the
conscious state will be a hallmark of the anointing of God’s end time
apostles and prophets.
LAST VIEW I saw my body laying on the bed. My body was called to
attention. My legs straightened, my arms went out perpendicular to my
body, then at the elbow my arm came back to my body with my hands
touching my sides. As I was laying on three pillows my head appeared to
be in a bowed position.
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COMMENT AND REVELATION INSIGHT BY JIM BLACK FROM ANAHEIM:
In discussing these dreams with Paula, we feel that that this last view
indicated that I had been in the spiritual dimension receiving from the
Lord. The Fact that I viewed my own body before waking up was God’s way
of showing that these dreams were from him. In this discussion, the Holy
Spirit brought to mind a dream I had some time ago in which I had caught
a fireball from heaven and had become a lamp post, providing heat and
light in a dark world.
Paula indicated that he would republish that dream as we feel the dream
is coming true here in Anaheim.
We learned that Cary Goodwin has checked into the hotel. The
significance of this was brought out in the dream of the Lamp post. As
other lamp posts were established these lamp posts became connected by
fire which brought greater light into a very dark world. The apostles
are the lampposts.
Under the anointing of the Holy Spirit, Paula and I discussed how the
anointing appears to be growing since we have arrived and began to talk
with each other. As each apostle/prophet arrives they bring their own
particular anointing with them which when in close contact with other
anointed men and women joins to the pool of anointing that is
available. Each anointing feeds the others and a unity of purpose
begins to appear. A unity of God’s purpose. Where man is in unity of
purpose there is nothing they cannot do according to God’s own word.
Under this anointing of unity miracles become not only possible but
likely.
We are anxious to see what will happen when the full measure of the
pooled anointing is ignited by the Holy Spirit. Already, we feel the
anointing in our spirits , in our innermost being, and upon our flesh in
a measure we have rarely felt. It has become apparent the Lord has
listened to our conversations and has responded with dreams that address
the subject of our conversations as if He has been a participant in
those conversations. There is little doubt that as Christ abides in us,
and we abide in Christ, He participates in our life, thoughts, and
conversations in a manner we have not seen before.
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