D&V List No.359
Date: Sunday 7th November, 1999
Topic:
Revelation insight into the end time Apostolic Order
Contents:
* This dream is telling us that God is birthing this man child Apostolic Order into His church and it is as His beloved Son…This move will quickly mature God’s Church/Bride. The fact that the message of this dream was repeated in two dreams says that the word is established in God and it will take place soon. Two dreams by Karen Palermo submitted on 29th October, 1999 and interpretation by Kerry Porter.
* The place of God’s apostolic and prophetic anointing of 1999 is a place where God’s people are filled, taught and led of the Spirit. It is a place of the joy of the Lord and a place where God’s communion in prophecy, dreams and visions is established. Dream by Marilyn Delpino submitted on 28th October, 1999 and interpretation by Paula.
* Your dreams on dilapidated and rotting buildings are speaking about the spiritual state of the old church order which existed prior to the apostolic and prophetic church order of the late 1990’s…The old order is passing away and the new end time apostolic order is coming in! Dream by Dawn Braun on 28th October, 1999 and interpretation by Kerry Porter.
* Leadership which is legalistic and lacks the direct teaching of the Spirit does not have the heart of Christ towards the Church. Those who are of the apostolic/prophetic are to demonstrate the heart of Christ towards His Church. Dream by Denise on 2nd Oct. 1999 and interpretation by Kerry Porter.
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THIS DREAM IS TELLING US THAT GOD IS BIRTHING THIS MAN CHILD APOSTOLIC ORDER INTO HIS CHURCH AND IT IS AS HIS BELOVED SON…This move will quickly mature God’s Church/Bride. The fact that the message of this dream was repeated in two dreams says that the word is established in God and it will take place soon. Two dreams by Karen Palermo submitted on 29th October, 1999 and interpretation by Kerry Porter.
From: KLPalermodaystaraol.com [SMTP:KLPalermodaystaraol.com]
Sent: Friday, 29 October 1999 12:36 am
To: daystardaystarmailbox.uq.edu.au
Subject: A son is born
I had two dreams that I would like to share with you I believe relates
to Rev. 12, the manchild. Please look them over and give me your
insight.
First dream: I dreamt I had a son. He was just a newborn infant and
I was standing holding the child. People from the church were coming to see
him because he was able to talk as a newborn. A woman (intercessor) from
the church came over to look at my son and while looking at him I said to
the baby, "Say mommy." He said, "Mommy." I said, "Say daddy." The
newborn said, "Daddy." I then looked at the woman and said, "See, he can talk
already."
· There are a lot of God's people dreaming of being pregnant and having babies at this time. I believe you are right in that your baby in the dream represents the man child where the child is speaking of the birthing of God’s end time Apostolic Order. In the new Apostolic Order God’s people will develop and grow quickly to maturity. They will surprise the Church by what they can do and how quickly they can do it in God’s apostolic anointing.
Eph 4:12
For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for
the edifying of the body of Christ:
Eph 4:13
Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of
the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature
of the fullness of Christ:
Now, before explaining the second dream, I have to explain something
else. I was in bed reading my Bible before retiring to go to sleep. I was
reading about the story of Zacharia being told he was going to have a son and
was to name him John. Luke 1 (John the Baptist). While reading the Word the
Lord spoke to me and said, "Karen, you are going to have a son." Now, I
cannot have children and I thought to myself, "That can't be God," and
continued to read, while still pondering what I had heard. After reading the Word I laid down to go to sleep for the night. I then had this dream.
I dreamt that I was in a living room on a couch. The pastor of the
church was sitting next to me. My mother walks in the room, points at me and
says, "Karen, you are going to have a son." The pastor then looks at me and
says, "Yes Karen, you are going to have a son." I answered both of them by
saying, "That's odd. Just last night while reading the Bible the Lord spoke
to me and told me that I was going to have a son (speaking of the incident
prior to sleeping).
Then, I seen a boy in the room that looked to be about 5 or 6 in age, but he was actually only 1 week old. He was my son. I said to him, "Say mommy." He did. I then ask him to say daddy and he did. I then looked and to those about me to show that he was only one week of age and was able to walk and talk as though he were 5 or 6 years old.
· This dream is confirming the previous one. This reminds me of when Mary was visited by an angel and was told that she would have a son. Jesus is the Great Apostle. I believe that this dream is telling us that God is birthing this man child Apostolic Order into His church and it is as His beloved Son. Time is short and maturity will be swift. This move will quickly mature God’s Church/Bride. The fact that the message of this dream was repeated in two dreams to you says that the word is established in God and it will take place soon.
Now, I know this refers to a spiritual son. The dreams were so real,
I actually began thinking I was actually having a real son though, but
soon got a hold of my senses knowing it was spiritual.
Karen
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THE PLACE OF GOD’S APOSTOLIC AND PROPHETIC ANOINTING OF 1999 IS A PLACE WHERE GOD’S PEOPLE ARE FILLED, TAUGHT AND LED OF THE SPIRIT. It is a place of the joy of the Lord and a place where God’s communion in prophecy, dreams and visions is established. Dream by Marilyn Delpino submitted on 28th October, 1999 and interpretation by Paula.
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 19:41:39 EDT
From: Magdamarydaystaraol.com
Hi,
Here is a dream I had a few nights ago, and I would appreciate your input.
I was with my family in a large row boat, and we were going to a family
vacation. there was a row of cottages around a cul-de-sac. Rather than
travelling by car on a paved street, there was water, and we travelled by
canoe/row boat.
· With my family - your local home church.
· In a large row boat - God’s provision for riding or moving in the Spirit in 1999.
· Street of water - In the leading of the Spirit.
· Cottages - Inadequate spiritual condition of home churches lacking in current apostolic and prophetic anointing and revelation.
The boat came to the curb, and we all got out to go to our cottage, but I turned around, and got back in the boat. I knew the rest of the family would not go,but I knew I had to go, and I wanted to go. I also knew that the boat was going to lead me automatically. I knew I didn't have to do anything, it would just drive me there.......even though I didn't know where I was going.
· Marilyn looks like you are quite alone in the working of the prophetic anointing of the late 1990’s in your local church. For this reason you didn’t want to settle for the status quo but trusted God to take you where He wants to take His people to in 1999.
I was happy and peaceful, but a tiny bit nervous because at the front and back of the boat, were the hands and feet of a crocodile, which were the propellers of the boat. I stayed very still during the trip, which went through some very narrow passages, knowing I’d be OK........I totally trust God.
Boat propelled by a crocodile - God’s provision for being led of the Spirit is/will be facilitated by the working of the dragon/god of this world as it was in the life of Jesus Christ. Presumably this will be related to God’s judgment within Christendom.
1Cor 2
6. Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom o
this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:
7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, [even] the hidden [wisdom],
which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known [it], they
would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
Then, we finally came to the place where I was to get out. Again it was a regular street, with houses, rather than cottages, they were rows of apt. bldgs. When I stepped onto the curb, there were a few people there, I knew them from the church God had called me out of a yr. ago. they were very happy to see me, and they were cheering, but I didn't know why.
· Houses rather than cottages - Home churches in the comfort of the leading of the Spirit in apostolic and prophetic anointing of 1999.
· A few people there - As yet only a few have already arrived here.
· They were from the church I had left a year ago - People come here because of the state of their hearts towards God and not because of the church they attend.
Then, I started to sing in tongues, and worship and praise God, and sing
prophetically. I was totally ecstatic, and excited, and joyful. I started to
jump up and down as I sang, I jumped so high that I was actually reaching up
to the second and third stories of the apt. bldgs.......everyone was very
happy.
· The place of God’s apostolic and prophetic anointing of 1999 is a place where God’s people are filled, taught and led of the Spirit. It is a place of the joy of the Lord and a place where God’s communion in prophecy, dreams and visions is established.
Joel 2
28. And it shall come to pass afterward, [that] I will pour out my spirit
upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old
men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
Thanks,
marilyn delpino
ps. I am currently fellowshipping with an australian friend. I’m wondering
if there is any connection with the crocodile.
also, my family has not left church, nor do they really believe in this
current move of God. they give me alot of grief over my separation from all
of the things God has called me out of. (which is pretty much totally
everything).
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YOUR DREAMS ON DILAPIDATED AND ROTTING BUILDINGS ARE SPEAKING ABOUT THE SPIRITUAL STATE OF THE OLD CHURCH ORDER which existed prior to the apostolic and prophetic church order of the late 1990’s…The old order is passing away and the new end time apostolic order is coming in! Dream by Dawn Braun on 28th October, 1999 and interpretation by Kerry Porter.
From: Dawn [SMTP:honeydoodaystarsaa.net]
Sent: Friday, 29 October 1999 3:13 am
Hi Paula!
Well, I have been having this reoccurring dream, of an old rotten
building. This building seems to be appearing in my dreams in various
forms. I think this is the 4th dream I have had like this. The last
dream was of DREAM OF CLIMBING A ROTTING BUILDING. I believe this one has some of the same significance. Tell me what you think!
Thanks and blessings on you.
Dawn
DREAM OF OLD BUILDING AND DEEP WATER
By Dawn Braun
October 28, 1999
I dreamed that I was with my husband, some other people and we were
walking towards a "house". The "house" was in disarray. There was junk
all over the lawn which was not mowed. There were all kind of
objects, looked like old farm machinery and various items. The building which
was white, looked like a church building. I think there was a cross at the
very top that stood very high in the sky. As we got to the front of
the house we had been walking on the sidewalk. Not all the people were on
the sidewalk, some walked in the grass.
* I believe that your dreams on dilapidated and rotting buildings are speaking about the spiritual state of the old church order which existed prior to the apostolic and prophetic church of the late 1990’s. Things here are in disarray. Farm equipment left lying around the lawn is showing that the equipping that God had given His church is not being used, has become idle and left to rot away. The things of God have become junk to this church. The lawn is long and unkempt representing the fleshliness and worldliness that has been allowed to grow in this old order church. This church was of God (it was white in colour) but has been allowed to fall into disarray. The old order is passing away and the new apostolic order is coming in!
For some reason I decided to take a different way into the building.
As we approached the front door, I went to the left around some huge farm
machinery, which looked like a combine. It was very old, rusty and
black in color from just sitting there getting old. My husband pointed to
the sidewalk and tried to tell me that I needed to follow that path, but I
ignored him and instead went into a very deep hole of water. No one
followed me or came to see where I had gone.
* God is raising up those in the church who will not conform to the status quo (walk on sidewalk) and just go the way of flesh and blood leadership (husband). These are his apostles and prophets who are looking to change what is happening.
* The old, rusty and black combine machine is showing that the work of the ministry (combine harvester) for the performance of the will of God under the old church system is dead.
* Going into a very deep well of water is walking in the Spirit to be revealed things for what they really are in the spiritual state of the Church. Presently very few are able to see this apostate condition of the Church (No one followed me or came to see where I had gone).
The next thing I knew I was walking towards the back of the building.
When I went around the corner, I was surprised to find out that there
was nothing back there. Not even a door. Nothing. It was old. The
paint had fallen off and it looked like it could be many years old. I guess
I felt in the dream, that that the people were being deceived. It really
wasn't what they thought it was. For some reason, I had a piece of 2 x 4
wood in my hand. I stood there and was astounded at my findings.
* Nothing and not even a door at the back of the old and unpainted building speaks of inward spiritual bankruptcy for a church that only shows a religious front.
* The 2 x 4 piece of wood in the hand speaks about the ministry of the power of the Cross (wood) which God will place in the hands of His end time apostles and prophets in order to bring about restoration. END OF DREAM
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LEADERSHIP WHICH IS LEGALISTIC AND LACKS THE DIRECT TEACHING OF THE SPIRIT DOES NOT HAVE THE HEART OF CHRIST TOWARDS THE CHURCH. Those who are of the apostolic/prophetic are to demonstrate the heart of Christ towards His Church. Dream by Denise on 2nd Oct. 1999 and interpretation by Kerry Porter.
From: RBuck22797daystaraol.com [SMTP:RBuck22797daystaraol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 3 November 1999 5:01 am
I was seated at a table with two young girls (early to mid teens) and also a
young boy (about age 12 or 13) They were being given lessons in
etiquette, the proper use of utensils, etc.
· Young prophetic and apostolic ministries within the church who are
currently undergoing discipleship in the giftings for the ministry.
Isaiah 28:9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to
understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn
from the breasts.
The young girls started discussing the upcoming "Tara Ball" they were to attend. (Tara is the name of the plantation owned by a wealthy Irishman in the Pre-Civil War South in the novel "Gone With The Wind"- if it has some other significance or if there is other land named Tara somewhere in the world, I am not aware of it.) They were excited about the beautiful ball gowns they were going to wear and were talking about how to fix their hair. They were asking me for advice and wanted to know if I would be available to help them dress their hair for the event. I recall thinking as I looked at the young boy, how poised and sophisticated he was for one so young. He did not enter into the conversation with the girls.
· Up coming Tara ball may represent the demonstration of the apostolic/prophetic ministries within the church (plantation).
· The boy was poised and sophisticated may reflect the spiritual sophistication/wisdom which shall be apparent in the young apostles. Denise you may reflect the church of the apostolic/prophetic anointing who shall offer assistance and support to these young ministry giftings.
About this time an old Jewish gentleman came to the table and the girls hurried off. He was jovial and friendly with a bit of feisty humour about him. He sat near the young boy and started to crack jokes and make off-the-wall conversation. The atmosphere was very relaxed. Then, in walked a matronly Jewish woman, (his wife). The atmosphere at once became formal, reserved and proper. Everyone was minding his manners.
· The old Jewish gentleman, or ministry leadership which is of the law in types of ministry expression and structure . His matronly Jewish wife may reflect the church under this leadership who is in bondage to formality and structure rather than possessing the liberty of the Spirit.
She sat next to me and started to drink a cup of coffee. I was just finishing a bagel and cream cheese ( but I was taking very small bites and being careful not to make a mess). I was taking small bites being careful not to make a mess.
· Reflecting the sensitivity and wisdom needed to be demonstrated by the apostolic/prophetic church so as not to unnecessarily cause offense to the old order.
The Jewish man made some very rude comments about his wife. It
surprised me when I leaned across the table and said to him. " Do not
ever speak disrespectfully about your wife again." Everyone got up to leave
the table. I was helping to clear the table of the utensils (which were pure
silver) and trying to finish eating the other half of may bagel and cream cheese when the Jewish woman came up to me and said "It has been a delight having luncheon with you. my dear. Are you leaving us?" I was trying to answer her, but my mouth was full of the bagel. Finally I just shook my head no, and mumbled that I was not leaving. She said "that is good".
End of dream.
* The Jewish man made some rude comments about his wife: Leadership which is legalistic and lacks the direct teaching of the Spirit does not have the heart of Christ towards the Church. Those who are of apostolic/prophetic are to demonstrate the heart of Christ towards His church which shall assist to bring them into the current teaching and leading of the Lord at this time.
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