D&V List No.387

 

Date:   Saturday 22nd January, 2000

 

Contents:

* Being on a side road and trying to get onto the freeway can speak of the end time apostolic and prophetic ministries as currently not being able to flow freely within Christendom. The danger that the kids are warning of is the revelation through dreams, visions and prophecy of the resistance and opposition from within Christendom that God’s end time apostles and prophets are currently receiving. I suppose we can assume from the dream that God’s judgment upon the shepherds of Christendom is going to facilitate the acceptance of the apostles and prophets into their foundational place within the Church. Dream by Lena Rowe submitted on 7th Jan. 2000.

 

* The windows all around the house of the dreamer is confirming that the house is depicting the revelation abilities of the ministry of God’s prophets. The windows of the upper part of the dark car is telling us that the car most likely represents the false prophetic which will want to be identified with God’s prophets of the end times. The hold up of the driver in a dark coat by the two women may be revealing how the false prophetic will soon be arrested for execution or judgment. Dream by Wilma Engelgau on 6th Jan. 2000.

 

* Relative to reading daystar’s book and asking the Lord to speak to you in dreams, I would say that the place that you were visiting actually speaks of the place (ability) of communion with God in dreams as according to Scripture. You are a bit uncomfortable about this aspect of Christian fellowship with God and you prefer the familiar safety of what you are used to. You even want to abandon this aspect of the Christian experience but in this dream you are being constrained by a spiritual authority (officer) to remain here. Dream by Pastor Bill Langill on 12th Jan. 2000.

 

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BEING ON A SIDE ROAD AND TRYING TO GET ONTO THE FREEWAY CAN SPEAK OF THE END TIME APOSTOLIC AND PROPHETIC MINISTRIES as currently not being able to flow freely within Christendom. The danger that the kids are warning of is the revelation through dreams, visions and prophecy of the resistance and opposition from within Christendom that God’s end time apostles and prophets are currently receiving. I suppose we can assume from the dream that God’s judgment upon the shepherds of Christendom is going to facilitate the acceptance of the apostles and prophets into their foundational place within the Church. Dream by Lena Rowe submitted on 7th Jan. 2000.

 

Date:   Fri, 07 Jan 2000 11:34:50 -0800

From:  Oakley Rowe <oaklendaystartelevar.com>

To:      daystardaystarmailbox.uq.edu.au

 

Dear Brother:

Had the most vivid dream last night in color and great detail.

 

You interpreted a dream awhile back about a church here, and it was so

right.

 

A pastors mother was in this dream...was in a strange town...and this

lady lived in a multi storied tenement....barn red in color...and all

wooden siding, rather run down....and all the entrances were by stairs

from the outside...all individual stairs both front & back.... Drove up to this place, and went inside, and there were many people inside. many that I recognized.....the men & women were segregated.....the men sitting in a dark room all looking very somber....went further into the house, and there were many women....didn't see the pastors mother at work....but knew this was her place.  

 

·      The Pastor’s mother and the red multi storied house with endless amount of rooms that she lived in represent Christendom which is identified with the blood of Jesus (red) and made up of many different denominations and groups.  The run down wooden siding is revealing that Christendom is predominantly humanistic or carnal minded (wooden) and it is spiritually weak (run down). The individual stairs and the segregation of men and women speak of great division presently within Christendom along gender lines and between denominations and groups.

 

Gal 4:26

But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

 

There was a lot of eating in this place and that was in a common area, but very relaxed....no formal gathering at a table...but easy chairs. Didn't see any food preparation, but there seemed to be a lot of food....both practical food and also desert type foods.

 

·      A lot of eating in the place speaks of a lot of teaching within Christendom. No formal gathering speaks of lack of divine order concerning the teaching of the Gospel within Christendom. This highlights the need for the divine order that God’s apostles and prophets would bring. The feel of the dream evokes God’s judgment upon the leadership of His people and the proud, the pushy and the arrogant as proclaimed in Ezekiel 34.

 

A great mess was left behind by each person that ate there. There were other women that scurried around picking up the messes from the eaters, who didn't even bother to pick up after themselves.

 

Ezek 34:16

I will seek that which was lost, and bring again that which was

driven away, and will bind up that which was broken, and will

strengthen that which was sick: but I will destroy the fat and the

strong; I will feed them with judgment.

 

Ezek 34:17

And as for you, O my flock, thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I judge

between cattle and cattle, between the rams and the he goats.

 

Ezek 34:18

Seemeth it a small thing unto you to have eaten up the good pasture,

but ye must tread down with your feet the residue of your pastures?

and to have drunk of the deep waters, but ye must foul the residue

with your feet?

 

Ezek 34:19

And as for my flock, they eat that which ye have trodden with your

feet; and they drink that which ye have fouled with your feet.

 

Ezek 34:20

Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD unto them; Behold, I, even I, will

judge between the fat cattle and between the lean cattle.

 

One woman came by with a big tub and quickly picked up the dishes and left overs and looked very serious and as she left, felt that she was going down a stairway and heard the most blood curdling scream come out of her.....I felt that she was in trouble physically...like something had happened to her health wise.

 

·      It has not been beneficial but somewhat life threatening for those ministries who have tried to clean up the mess or the muddied teachings within Christendom.

 

Going into this house which seemed multi storied after going in, there

seemed to be an endless amount of rooms....and always seeing some of the

somber faces of the men.  I didn't feel this about the women, although I

can't remember seeing much joy there. The men were all sitting together,

but just saw women one by one, but not gathered together at all.

 

·      The somber faces of the men as compared to the activity of the women may be revealing the dominance of Christian activities around the Gospel by women in the time of the judgment of God upon the shepherds of Christendom.

 

Isa 3: 12 [As for] my people, children [are] their oppressors, and women rule over

them. O my people, they which lead thee cause [thee] to err, and destroy the

way of thy paths.

 13 The LORD standeth up to plead, and standeth to judge the people.

 14 The LORD will enter into judgment with the ancients of his people, and the

princes thereof: for ye have eaten up the vineyard; the spoil of the poor [is

in your houses.

 15 What mean ye [that] ye beat my people to pieces, and grind the faces of

the poor? saith the Lord GOD of hosts.

 

There was a couple there that I didn't recognize, and they ate together,

and they looked up and told me that they had come early for their meal,

because they knew that I had a word for them.  I didn't have a thing.

They left and I started to get that they were in the right area, and why

they were there. .....When I went to share it with them, I could only

see the man and he was sitting with the rest of the men....all looking

long faced, and couldn't even get a hint of expression on his face.

The woman was nowhere to be seen.

 

·      The feel of the dream seems to be that the judgment of God upon the shepherds of Christendom is also judgment upon the men in general. (he was sitting with the rest of the men....all looking long faced, and couldn't even get a hint of expression on his face) In the time of the judgment of God there will also be a dearth for the immediate and directly inspired word of revelation from God. (they had come early for their meal, because they knew that I had a word for them.  I didn't have a thing)

 

Later upon leaving  that place walked the length of the building and

came out on another street, and wondered just how I had gotten out of

that building....and wondered just how I would find my way back to that

group....and left  in a pickup  truck.

 

Went down an unknown road, and by that time had 3 of my grandchildren in

the vehicle with me.  There seemed to be 2 water spouts on the dash of

the little pickup truck.  The kids first turned on the small waterspout,, then after I told them to turn that one off, they turned on the large one, and that one was like a large waterspout and handle like you see on outside irrigation.  It was at that point that I realized that there was no driver, and I got into the drivers seat.

 

·      As usual I am assuming that as the dreamer you represent God’s end time prophetic and apostolic anointing and ministries. Being involved with revelation, your 3 grandchildren could be depicting the revelation abilities or gifts of the Spirit in prophecy, dreams and visions that God has birthed into the Church (family) for the work of the ministry (vehicle).

 

Going up an unknown road, we finally ended up on a road that became

smaller and smaller, and realized that we couldn't get onto the freeway  , and the one we were on dead ended.....when we came to the dead end and had just gotten turned around, we realized that we were in danger, for the kids said that there was an armed man there, but we were able to drive away. Then the phone rang.....and that was the end of the dream.

 

·      Being on a side road and trying to get onto the freeway can speak of the end time apostolic and prophetic ministries as currently not being able to flow freely within Christendom. The danger that the kids are warning of is the revelation through dreams, visions and prophecy of the resistance and opposition from within Christendom that God’s end time apostles and prophets are currently receiving. I suppose we can assume from the dream that God’s judgment upon the shepherds of Christendom is going to facilitate the acceptance of the apostles and prophets into their foundational place within the Church.

 

This all took place in an unknown area, but knew  a few of the people

there...mostly the men...

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RELATIVE TO READING DAYSTAR’S BOOK AND ASKING THE LORD TO SPEAK TO YOU IN DREAMS, I would say that the place that you were visiting actually speaks of the place (ability) of communion with God in dreams as according to Scripture. You are a bit uncomfortable about this aspect of Christian fellowship with God and you prefer the familiar safety of what you are used to. You even want to abandon this aspect of the Christian experience but in this dream you are being constrained by a spiritual authority (officer) to remain here. Dream by Pastor Bill Langill on 12th Jan. 2000.

 

Date:   Thu, 13 Jan 2000 15:14:46 EST

From:  UnionwithChristdaystaraol.com

 

I awoke this morning with a need to tell someone my dream and sense it was

your books that lead me to ask God to speak to me in this way I thought I'd

tell you.

 

 

In the dream I'm visiting a place and talking about how beautiful the place I

live is. As I get ready to leave I'm informed by an officer that at this time I can't

leave because of problems with the freeway but his words seem dishonest to me.

 

When I go back into a house that has many bay windows at the back of the house I look out a window and see the smoke of a large fire off in the distance.  The smoke clouds look very much like a mushroom cloud from a bomb. As I look more closely all of a sudden from the top of the cloud fireballs shoot out and land in a field near the house.  These fireballs continue to get close to the house but as I see the pattern I become convinced that I'm in no danger. At this time I awake from the dream determined to share it with you.

 

COMMENT BY PAULA

Dreams often address circumstances in our lives that we may be praying about or spiritual things happening around us or in the local church or even in the Church in general. That is, the things that have to do with the kingdom of God are what our dreams mainly address. I do not know the circumstances that led to this dream so just use this attempt at interpretation to clarify a better application in your life.

 

Taking into account the time of your dream and what the Spirit has been saying currently to the churches in dreams about God’s judgment upon Christendom, we can say that the mushroom smoke cloud of the large fire speaks of this judgment. Dangerous fireballs shooting out of the top of the cloud seems to agree with this assumption.

 

Relative to reading daystar’s book and asking the Lord to speak to you in dreams, I would say that the place that you were visiting actually speaks of the place (ability) of communion with God in dreams as according to Scripture. The many bay windows at the back of the house speaks of abundant revelation. You are a bit uncomfortable about this aspect of Christian fellowship with God and you prefer the familiar safety of what you are used to (I'm visiting a place and talking about how beautiful the place I live is). You even want to abandon this aspect of the Christian experience but in this dream you are being constrained by a spiritual authority (officer) to remain here (As I get ready to leave I'm informed by an officer that at this time I can't leave because of problems with the freeway). The problems with the freeway most likely speaks of  problems that have to do with the road or direction (freeway) that Christian churches and ministries are taking.

 

Your apprehension concerning this “new” aspect of the things of the Spirit is strong (but his words seem dishonest to me) but the dream is saying that in this way of being directly taught and led of the Spirit, there is safety from being victims of the judgment of God (These fireballs continue to get close to the house but as I see the pattern I become convinced that I'm in no danger). Looks like we identified the background application of this dream. Thank you for sharing!

 

In Christ in His service

Pastor Bill Langill jr

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THE WINDOWS ALL AROUND THE HOUSE OF THE DREAMER IS CONFIRMING THAT THE HOUSE IS DEPICTING THE REVELATION ABILITIES OF THE MINISTRY OF GOD’S PROPHETS. The windows of the upper part of the dark car is telling us that the car most likely represents the false prophetic which will want to be identified with God’s prophets of the end times. The hold up of the driver in a dark coat by the two women may be revealing how the false prophetic will soon be arrested for execution or judgment. Dream by Wilma Engelgau on 6th Jan. 2000.

 

Date:   Fri, 7 Jan 2000 14:09:22 -0600

From:  "Wilma Engelgau" <wil2gardendaystarworldnet.att.net>

 

January 4th while praying for the world became aware I was seeing a whole scene of microscopic perfect circles, some dark, some lit, all floating

from the top right and falling or floating to the bottom and left.  There may have been some going across and away.  At first I know I saw them but was not paying attention, then my attention was drawn to them and they left shortly.

 

January  6th early AM was awakened by seeing, while eyes closed, many minute helicopters, blades whirling, lit, and coming to me.  I had been dreaming it seems all night but do not know of what. 

 

Anyhow I went back to sleep and a dream started.  Everything was in shades of blue:  A friend was over to my house and she was talking on the telephone to her niece, who lives in another state, they seem to be talking about the Y2K.

 

Now I look out the windows which seem to be all around in the house which is in the country.  Coming down the road from my left side is a good size, dark vehicle that resembles the one royalty in England use.  The upper part is all windows.  For some reason I don't like to see the vehicle coming and think it will turn into our driveway.  I tell the lady on the phone to hang up and come see. She does.

 

Just before it gets to our place it turns to the right on a road that goes by us on the side.  As it does this we see that there are three people in the vehicle.  A woman passenger and a man, driving, and a woman sitting directly behind the driver.  She is holding a hand gun, by both hands, at the man’s head. 

 

Now the car stops and the three jump out of the car.  The woman from the back seat still pointing the gun at the driver, whose back is toward us.  He is dressed in a long black, or dark coat, and has his arms spread out in the air.  The woman holding the gun is facing in the direction of the house we are in.  Don't know where the other woman is, just saw her when she got out of the car.

 

When the woman with me saw this she drops to the floor on her hands and knees and said she will crawl to the door of the house and close it.

This scene ends.

 

Immediately another scene starts all in different shades of blue also :

Now I'm in a barn, on the farm, which has at least two levels.  I have just come down what seems to be a ladder from the floor above and am heading for an opening to an area where I see a seven foot ( 7ft ) high wooden fence, built as a shelter from the weather.  I can see above it but not anything on the other side. 

 

As I am about ready to go out the opening into that area outside, my attention is drawn to another large door opening into the part of the barn I'm in.  I see several large grey elephants walking past in both directions.  Trunks swinging, heads up and looking very alert.  Looking straight ahead.  They appeared to me as a marching army, as they completely cover the opening.  One right behind the other and in at least two lines. One going one way the other headed to other direction. I think they will soon come in that door, and they could be out in the area I was heading for so I should go back upstairs where I had just come from.  Don't think the elephants can get up there. 

 

As I stand wondering what to do look up through the opening to the upper floor and see elephants walking back and forth there also.  I wonder where can I go.  All is gone and I wake up.

 

My thoughts are that this is still trouble coming for the Church Body of Christ, even though we have started a new year, the danger has not passed.  Thank you for any thoughts you may have on these.

 

Yours in Christ,  Wilma Engelgau

 

COMMENT BY PAULA

Wilma, some dreams at the beginning of the year 2000 have been warning of great spiritual warfare ahead for the Church.  Your vision of, “many minute helicopters, blades whirling, lit, and coming to me,” could be supporting this message. This dream is yet another confirmation (they seem to be talking about the Y2K ) which is revealing that the greats (elephants) of the principalities, powers and rulers (posh black car for royalty) of the kingdom of darkness will be involved in an attempt to box in and block (7 foot high wooden fence) the going forth of God’s end time prophets and apostles (dreamer and friend in the dreamer’s house).

 

The windows all around the house of the dreamer is confirming that the house is depicting the revelation abilities of the ministry of God’s prophets. The windows of the upper part of the dark car is telling us that the car most likely represents the false prophetic which will want to be identified with God’s prophets of the end times. The hold up of the driver in a dark coat by the two women may be revealing how the false prophetic will soon be arrested for execution or judgment.

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