D&V List No.389
DATE: Saturday 29th January, 2000
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CONTENTS:
* You are and will be led to small churches (a small church?) which have seen great numbers in the past (huge but empty auditorium) but which will have deteriorated to small numbers and will have even been abandoned by former leaders (no pastor). This is because of the foundation of sand that the churches were built on and the lack of balance in the teachings and ministries thereof (congregation all over to one side and empty down the middle). An example of ministry direction in a dream by Dawn Braun on 21st Jan. 20000.
* The word shark is usually used in relation to con men, deceivers and seducers. Thus the dream is saying that the principalities, powers and rulers of darkness are involved in conning, deceiving and seducing the youth and children of society and the churches. This work of the kingdom of darkness is intensifying (additional baby shark). Dreams by Donna Scott on 17th Dec. 2000 and interpretation by Pam Watson and Paula.
* Lisa, when a scene like this comes in a dream, it usually imparts a wholesome and peaceful feeling that is a favourable blessing from the Lord. The clear blue river is a standard picture of the leading of the Holy Spirit in the life of the dreamer. Dream by Lisa Green submitted on 21st Jan. 2000 and interpretation by Paula.
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YOU ARE AND WILL BE LED TO SMALL CHURCHES (A SMALL CHURCH?) WHICH HAVE SEEN GREAT NUMBERS IN THE PAST (huge but empty auditorium) but which will have deteriorated to small numbers and will have even been abandoned by former leaders (no pastor). This is because of the foundation of sand that the churches were built on and the lack of balance in the teachings and ministries thereof (congregation all over to one side and empty down the middle). Dream by Dawn Braun on 21st Jan. 20000.
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 07:42:57 -0500
From: Dawn <honeydoodaystarsaa.net>
I dreamed I was in a church service with my husband. It was a small
congregation, maybe 50 or less people. We sat on wooden chairs. There
was a platform that was also wooden in the front where 2 musicians lead
praise and worship. There was no Pastor. There was a song leader and
another musician who sat on a stool. We sang several songs.
Then something peculiar happened. The very last song was about me. The song
was sung in a foreign language, or in tongues. I knew it was about me
and everyone was singing the song in the congregation. They knew the
words but had no idea it was about me. They thought that it was a
regular praise and worship song. That made me laugh. I did not know any
of the people there. We sang the song and it was very pretty. I knew
some how that the song was about me and I knew the words, even though it
was in this language. I remember hearing the words "DONNA ROSA", in the
dream and knew some how that means "DAWN ROSE" in that language. Rose is
my middle name. How I knew all these things I do not know. When we were
done singing, we all sat down.
Then this song leader got up and started sharing my testimony. I did not know this man nor how he knew anything about me. He then said, " I want this lady to come up and share some of her testimony with us." I got right up out of my seat, (my husband looked at me like I was crazy), and went up front. I was not a guest
speaker or even invited to the church, I was just present. I felt kind of uncomfortable and strange about it, but had no fear. I'm always happy
to tell what God has done in my life.
When I got up front, I could see that the whole church was over to one side of the building. They had plenty of room there. It was like a large gymnasium and they just shoved everything over to one side. Nothing was in the middle. Besides the chairs and the platform the building was completely empty. I did not see any children.
As I started to speak, I said some funny things and people were laughing
at what I had said. I then realized I didn't have a microphone and no
one could hear me. I asked for one and started sharing my testimony with
them. As I was sharing, the people got up and started to leave one by
one. The man that lead the worship went out the back door (only door)
and when he did, the people followed him. He returned but mostly all the
people had already gone, and eventually were all gone. All that was left
were the song leaders, my husband and I. I thought it was odd and knew
it had nothing to do with me. We all just stood there and could not believe they all just got up and walked out. We stared at the door.
(Maybe I said some things that they did not want to hear.)
End of dream.
COMMENT BY PAULA
Dawn, this is one of those dreams that you will ultimately clarify the best interpretation for. It appears to me that the Lord is still leading you in your ministry which is intimately woven into your testimony.
You are and will be led to small churches (a small church?) which have seen great numbers in the past (huge but empty auditorium) but which will have deteriorated to small numbers and will have even been abandoned by former leaders (no pastor). This is because of the foundation of sand that the churches were built on and the lack of balance in the teachings and ministries thereof (congregation all over to one side and empty down the middle).
The dream is revealing certain things from this order that led to the deterioration. Firstly, there was the predominance of funny jokes and laughter in the service (I said some funny things and people were laughing). The people were thus given to frivolity and superficiality and could not eat of the meat (my testimony) of the things of God (As I was sharing, the people got up and started to leave one by one). This spiritual condition and atmosphere is intimately married to certain Christian music and songs (The man that lead the worship went out the back door (only door) and when he did, the people followed him).
RESPONSE FROM DAWN
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 20:43:31 -0500
I am so excited about these interpretations. I feel that most of it lines up with prophecies that have been given, and dreams that I have been given in the last few years about churches and how I am feeling on the inside of my spirit concerning the condition that the churches are in. It grieves my spirit and it must be coming out in my dreams. I have had several of these church dreams, but nothing has ever been said to me about a "call" or ministry (so to speak), it just a
feeling I have inside and a "knowing" in my spirit.
…Some times things are so intense for me that I just have to sit back and gaze with awe. This is one of those times.
I personally know of people that are without Pastors at the very present
and people that are church hopping. One couple I know has been in 6
churches in the last 6 years. One Pastor just resigned from a church
that we attended that at one time had nearly 1,000 members. There was a
huge church split and all the people were scattered. I had a dream
probably 18 years ago that the church had been completely stripped of
everything, carpet, wall paper, chairs and even the doors were off. I
was on stage and I was preaching to a packed out congregation, I didn't
even know. That church has gone through probably 15 pastors in 10 years.
That is no exaggeration. We have had that many pastors ourselves.
The church we attended now is on fire for God and has approximately 500
members. We will be going to 2 services on Febuary 13. It is not a dead
church and preaches an uncompromising gospel. People are getting saved
delivered and going forth in Jesus name! Hallelujah! God is so good.
HEBREWS 4:12 " For whatever God says to us is full of living power; it
is sharper than the sharpest dagger, cutting swift and deep into our
intermost thoughts and desires with all their parts, exposing us for
what we really are."
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THE WORD SHARK IS USUALLY USED IN RELATION TO CON MEN, DECEIVERS AND SEDUCERS. Thus the dream is saying that the principalities, powers and rulers of darkness are involved in conning, deceiving and seducing the youth and children of society and the churches. This work of the kingdom of darkness is intensifying (additional baby shark). Dreams by Donna Scott on 17th Dec. 2000 and interpretation by Pam Watson and Paula.
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:02:11 EST
From: "D. Scott" <dscott74daystarhotmail.com>
First there was a conversation about a house which was given to someone, it
was a small house but someone in the background was saying though the
house was small what the occupants needed to do was expand what little
they had by building outwards.
· If the house represents the Church or your local church then the word of the dream is encouraging it to go forth and expand in reach out to others.
Isa 54: 2 Enlarge the place of thy tent, and let them stretch forth the curtains of
thine habitations: spare not, lengthen thy cords, and strengthen thy stakes;
3 For thou shalt break forth on the right hand and on the left; and thy seed
shall inherit the Gentiles, and make the desolate cities to be inhabited.
This is the very unusual dream: I was passing my old neighbour hood
where my father has a house (I no longer live in that country). As I
passed one of the neighbours I noticed that she had lots of fish that
her family caught (in reality, this family have been know to fish in the
past). I was happy about the catch and wanted some and told the wife
so.
· The attention of this dream is on the old established church of the dreamer’s background which is going to be doing evangelism (catching fish) in order for the church to expand.
Then a very unusual scene appeared. I saw a crocodile which was cut
open. In its belly were many fishes, mainly young ones, and their
eyes were opening and getting brighter as they just laid there in the
creatures stomach. I then noticed that the fishes appeared to be babies
with open eyes and some just opening up their eyes. As I stood there, I saw another crocodile swimming around.
· As usual the two crocodiles represent principalities, rulers and powers of darkness (Eph 6:12). The dream is saying that they have concentrated their deception and attack on society’s youth (young fish) and children (baby fish).
These animals now seemed to be white sharks for some reason, there was also a baby shark along with one that is cut open and the one swimming around.
· The word shark is usually used in relation to con men, deceivers and seducers. Thus the dream is saying that the principalities, powers and rulers of darkness are involved in conning, deceiving and seducing the youth and children of society and the churches. This work of the kingdom of darkness is intensifying (additional baby shark).
The lady then told me she had to go after the other shark - the big one and as she swam around and started cutting at the shark, I could see the blood staining the water, and the baby shark swimming around. It was apparent that there was a
struggle but the person(s) who were cutting open the other sharks to retrieve the other fishes (babies) that were swallowed was successful but the scene changed.
· The crocodiles/ sharks (strong principalities ) are seeking to destroy the spiritual life of immature Christians (young and baby fish) within Christendom. A purpose of these principalities alluded to in the dream is to kill the ability of young Christians to see and understand spiritual things. (their eyes were opening and getting brighter as they just laid there in the creatures stomach. I then noticed that the fishes appeared to be babies with open eyes and some just opening up their eyes)
· The struggle is portraying the spiritual battle which is and which will be happening between the principalities and powers of darkness and God’s end time apostles and prophets. The result of this battle is a time of liberty and release of Christians from these spirits which have kept them in bondage.
I then saw this older couple, which seemed to be the ones that was fighting with the crocodile (shark). Then I noticed that all the flesh from their hands and feet were gone (maybe eaten away by the creature during the struggle). They were still able to do there normal chores even though I was seeing the flesh and bones where the skin was. Then my eyes were draw to the floor of this house, lining the floor was the flesh of these two people and they were filling in the spots with a lot of stones (small rocks, there were some spots left out (not enough
rocks)to cover so the place would be useable and no more sickening.
· The older couple who fought the crocodiles/sharks and released the fish portray the ministries of God’s end time apostles and prophets who are going to overcome the enemy. In the process of their battle with the deceiving and seducing principalities and powers of darkness their sinful flesh nature (their flesh) will decrease and their invisible spiritual nature in the image of Christ will increase. This process is foundation (floor) to the building up of God’s end time glorious Church (house) made of His lively stones.
1Pet 2: 5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy
priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus
Christ.
At one point the older lady appeared like she was vomiting maybe from the
sight of her flesh on the floor. Then as she prepared something, she
was using her hands and feet in its usual way although I was looking at
the loss of the flesh. She then gave me a bowl with some cheese and
something else and asked me to sprinkle some other cheese power into
the mixture and mix it up.
· The cheese (derivative of milk) mixture may be the strong teaching and instruction the apostles and prophets shall bring onto the Church.
1Pet 2: 1. Wherefore laying aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and
envies, and all evil speakings,
2 As newborn babes, desire THE SINCERE MILK OF THE WORD, that ye may grow thereby:
3 If so be ye have tasted that the Lord [is] gracious.
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LISA, WHEN A SCENE LIKE THIS COMES IN A DREAM, IT USUALLY IMPARTS A WHOLESOME AND PEACEFUL FEELING that is a favourable blessing from the Lord. The clear blue river is a standard picture of the leading of the Holy Spirit in the life of the dreamer. Dream by Lisa Green submitted on 21st Jan. 2000 and interpretation by Paula.
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 00:39:24 -0500
From: J Green <dengredaystarnetscape.net>
I am new to this and would also like info on obtaining your book.
My dream:
I was in a small, unfamiliar room with all windows on one side over
looking a tropical lagoon type river with very clear blue water with all
types of turtles, dolphins and friendly type sea animals.
· Lisa, when a scene like this comes in a dream, it usually imparts a wholesome and peaceful feeling that is a favourable blessing from the Lord. The clear blue river is a standard picture of the leading of the Holy Spirit in the life of the dreamer.
My future mother-in-law was in the room with me and my newborn baby. This baby was incredibly advanced in it's movements. I distinctly remember at one
point she needed her diaper changed and let me know with her head and
eye expressions, not crying. Then she rolled across the bed three times
to get to my fiancé (that's the first time he appeared in the dream and
I'm not sure if we were married or not). I asked his mother if that was
normal for a baby just born to be so advanced. And then the three of us
just marveled at the baby and were very happy.
· This scenario of an advanced baby is also standard for the portrayal of God’s end time apostolic and prophetic anointing and ministry. They will form the foundation to the raising up of God’s end time glorious Church/Bride. The word here is that the apostolic and prophetic ministries that God is birthing or raising up in the Church will bring the ministries and the Church to maturity.
Eph 4:11
And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some,
evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
Eph 4:12
For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for
the edifying of the body of Christ:
Eph 4:13
Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of
the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature
of the fullness of Christ:
Eph 4:14
That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and
carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and
cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
· As the dreamer you are of this prophetic anointing and both you and your future husband (your baby girl) have been separated unto this end time work of God. I guess you could say that this is a predominant word of encouragement for both of you from the Lord. Continue to get your lives in order quickly, hear and obey Him and discover the riches of the blessing of Christ’s inheritance in your lives.
The next part of the dream we were all in the water of this beautiful clear lagoon and I was playing or trying to catch some type of fish, more like an eel and my
mother-in-law was warning me or cautioning me and I was saying not to
worry. The end.
· An eel is like a snake and in this dream the eel may be showing a yet to be resolved ungodly circumstance that is in your life. Otherwise, all is well in the clear lagoon.
Circumstances:
I'm wondering if it might be helpful to tell you a little about what is going on in my life. My fiancé and I have had the calling to get back on the path, rededicate and live holy for the past year. A few months ago we decided to do so. We stopped earning money at our jobs in an un-Godly way or doing anything do earn money that wasn't of God. We proceeded to go down hill financially to the point that we lost our home and have disconnected from everything and everybody from our old lives. We are staying at his mother's until things turn around and walking in faith knowing that this is just a test and counting our blessings. Thank you for any insight you can give me. Lisa c/o dengredaystarnetscape.net
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