D&V List No.395
Date: Tuesday 15th February, 2000
Contents:
* Building into the clouds also speaks of bringing the people into the heavenly places (cloud) of God’s end time apostolic and prophetic Church. Prophets in particular (depicted by the dreamer) are to give this work of the Spirit greater value than that which they have intended so far. Dream by Theresa submitted on 27th Jan. 2000.
* Sometimes the trees of a forest or plantation in a dream depict believers (trees of righteousness) who make up the Church. A depiction of a church, castle or building in the sky is often interpreted as the Church in heavenly places. Its appearance here is most likely meant to instruct and encourage the people of the Church to attain unto the Church that is seated together with Christ in heavenly places! Dream by Ann Harel on 2nd Feb. 2000.
* I believe this dream is telling all New Testament Apostolic Order of prophetic intercessors, apostles and prophets they will feel compelled to attend particular churches or situations, and will be led by our dear Holy Spirit, even though they might feel uncomfortable. Thereupon, although folks in the various churches will think everything will continue as usual, and will attempt to remain in charge we will immediately respond as directed by our dear Holy Spirit. Dream and interpretation by Christine Gibson on 13th Jan. 2000.
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BUILDING INTO THE CLOUDS ALSO SPEAKS OF BRINGING THE PEOPLE INTO THE HEAVENLY PLACES (cloud) of God’s end time apostolic and prophetic Church. Prophets in particular (depicted by the dreamer) are to give this work of the Spirit greater value than that which they have intended so far. Dream by Theresa submitted on 27th Jan. 2000.
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:54:14 EST
From: MARY123333daystaraol.com
Hi, My name is Mary and I would like to submit this dream for my friend
Theresa. Here it is: Maybe you can help her understand; she does not have a
computer. Thank you
In my dream, I was somewhere in the southwest, probably Arizona. There was a
mountain. It was inlaid with marble. It was a clear blue sky and there was a light brown cloud over the mountain. Above that was a beautiful clear blue sky. I'm thinking, "How can my sons build right into the cloud." I was feeling downhearted about it.
· As no circumstance was given that related to this dream, just use this attempt at interpretation to help you clarify a better one and a suitable application.
· The mountain inlaid with marble could represent the building or church that the dreamer’s sons were building. Building to reach into the cloud speaks of attaining to a goal which seemed impossible (I'm thinking, "How can my sons build right into the cloud." I was feeling downhearted about it).
I then walked down into what looked like a town and there was a woman/pastor with a storefront church. The congregation was American/Indians. As she was preaching, I was just crying because of the burden for the people. We hugged and wept. Then I wanted to help her and so I went to give her a $10.00 bill. The only thing I had on me was a $100.00 bill. So I gave her that instead.
· Perhaps the church that you are familiar with and which was depicted by the mountain inlaid with marble symbolized this storefront church in town. This church reaches out to American Indians and/or other ethnic groups and they are in need of finance. The dream is encouraging folks to give of what they have beyond what they intended money-wise and in commitment.
I went back to where the mountain was and I still thought, "They’re going to
build right into the cloud."
· The kind of giving described above will enable the church in question to build towards reaching the goal. Here we remind ourselves that the church is the people who believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. Thus, building into the clouds also speaks of bringing the people into the heavenly places (cloud) of God’s end time apostolic and prophetic Church. Prophets in particular (depicted by the dreamer) are to give this work of the Spirit greater value than that which they have intended so far. (I went to give her a $10.00 bill. The only thing I had on me was a $100.00 bill. So I gave her that instead.)
Eph 2:5
Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with
Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
Eph 2:6
And hath raised us up together, and MADE US SIT TOGETHER IN HEAVENLY
PLACES in Christ Jesus:
Eph 2:7
That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his
grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
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SOMETIMES THE TREES OF A FOREST OR PLANTATION IN A DREAM DEPICT BELIEVERS (TREES OF RIGHTEOUSNESS) WHO MAKE UP THE CHURCH. A depiction of a church, castle or building in the sky is often interpreted as the Church in heavenly places. Its appearance here is most likely meant to instruct and encourage the people of the Church to attain unto the Church that is seated together with Christ in heavenly places! Dream by Ann Harel on 2nd Feb. 2000.
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 18:57:52 +0200
From: "Ann Harel" <ann.hareldaystarfrgateway.net>
Dear Daystar Team,
Thank you for your interpretation of these two dreams. Thank you also for
the Scriptures you gave in line with the dreams, in particular Isaiah
1:25-27 which just happened to be part of my daily Bible reading yesterday.
In the early hours of this morning I dreamt the following :-
I was in some kind of lush green area with pine trees. It could easily have
been a clearing on a mountain. My husband was sitting reading and I was
holding a cloth of some kind in my hands which was about the size of a sheet
or a tablecloth. I remember the colours being very vivid in this dream. There was a church in the sky suspended in mid air as if sitting on a cloud. It looked like any ordinary church except that it was quite colourful. I can remember thinking
how odd this was, and I wondered if I wasn't seeing a vision or perhaps a
picture projection.
Noises were coming from two of the trees, one to my left and one slightly to
my right. It sounded like the noise of chimps or monkeys. I actually saw
two of them. They were fighting and biting each other so fiercely that
they fell out of the tree, and here I noticed just how big these monkeys
were, they looked like something between a monkey and a gorilla and when
they stood up they were almost as tall as me. They turned and noticed me and
when they did I suddenly felt vulnerable and wondered if they might attack
me. I thought of using the cloth I was holding to somehow shoo them away
but I wasn’t quite sure just how effective that would be. End of dream.
COMMENT BY PAULA
Sometimes the trees of a forest or plantation in a dream depict believers (trees of righteousness) who make up the Church. A depiction of a church, castle or building in the sky is often interpreted as the Church in heavenly places. Its appearance here is most likely meant to instruct and encourage the people of the Church to attain unto the Church that is seated together with Christ in heavenly places!
Heb 12:22
But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God,
the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
Heb 12:23
To the general assembly and CHURCH of the firstborn, which are
written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of
just men made perfect,
Perhaps this dream is portraying the perfect Church in heavenly places and its corresponding imperfect Church counterpart on earth (pine trees on the mountain). The dream is saying that there has been a great invasion by principalities and powers of darkness (big monkeys) upon the Church on earth. Perhaps the noise from the two trees is bringing your (our) attention to false apostles and prophets existing and working within the churches who are given to deceiving and seducing spirits (two large monkeys).
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I BELIEVE THIS DREAM IS TELLING ALL NEW TESTAMENT APOSTOLIC ORDER OF PROPHETIC INTERCESSORS, APOSTLES AND PROPHETS they will feel compelled to attend particular churches or situations, and will be led by our dear Holy Spirit, even though they might feel uncomfortable. Thereupon, although folks in the various churches will think everything will continue as usual, and will attempt to remain in charge we will immediately respond as directed by our dear Holy Spirit. Dream and interpretation by Christine Gibson on 13th Jan. 2000.
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 19:22:25 -0800
From: "Christine Gibson" <hcgibsondaystarnwlink.com>
Greetings Paula and Daystar folks:
For some time now I have been grieving and interceding for churches in
prayers. Ritualistic churches especially grieve my spirit. I remember full
well my earlier dream about the imminent destruction of very large church
which was posted to your site. I believe that dream was sent me so I would
keep that denomination in my specific prayers of intercession.
DREAM January 13, 2000
My dream started where I pulled my car into a parking slot at a local
Church, which I used to attend and was active in many years ago. In my
dream, I was seeing the dream as an observer besides being the focus of the
dream.
It is raining. I step from my car, pull out my umbrella and open it up to
protect me from the rains. My umbrella is beautiful. It is identical to
the expensive one I purchased just before Christmas. That umbrella is
covered with brilliantly colored big pansies nestled above green leaves.
The colors are blues, oranges, yellows, and purples. I bought it because of
its breathtakingly beautiful colors depicting pansies, and because I felt it
would brighten up a usual grey, Seattle day, when it rains, and help cheer
folks up.
I wondered why I was here, because I never had any desire to ever return to
this particular church. Their focus is on rituals and praying to dead
people to intercede for them. I was feeling quite uncomfortable; but, I
knew I must attend this church at this time. I felt compelled to be here.
The church building and parking lot appeared identical to what I remembered
about this church.
A woman pulled her car into a slot close to mine. We both were hurrying to
get into the church for the services. It was a grey, Seattle day, with
pouring rain. She hurriedly opened her nondescript and black umbrella to
shelter her from the hard rain, and commenced talking with me as we hurried
to the building, like I was an old friend. She seemed to remember me and
she was excited to have me returning to this particular church. I was not
particularly excited. I just knew I must attend this church for some
reason.
The church is built on a hill, and we were entering the church from the
lower area. When we got to the door, it wasn't the same as I remembered.
When we came inside, it was even more confusing. It seemed to be in an area
with a series of hallways going this way and that. Like a maze. Finally, a
person came up to us who remembered me. He joyously greeted me and said
"Oh, we no longer have church in this building. You need to go through
here," gesturing to the direction we should go. "You will then travel
across the parking lot and be in our new church." The woman who was with me
seemed to know this. We thanked him for his assistance and walked in the
direction discussed.
When I opened the door, we immediately were in the church which wasn't
supposed to be there. My companion said "Oh, this church is for the
children. We need to go where we were told. First, let me minister to
you." There were rows upon rows, sort of in a semi-circle, of young folks,
small children, and perhaps an adult or two. These rows of children and
young adults, with an adult or two, seemed to be to the left of the altar.
The area where I was, was in semi-darkness. The altar, which was hidden
from our view, had a lot of light coming from it.
When she said she wanted to minister to me, we were in the front row.
Without my permission, she started to lay her hand upon my shoulder,
whereupon, I immediately reached down and put my hands around her ankles,
commencing to pray for her. Immediately, she fell down in the Spirit,
pulling me with her, and rested on the floor. I was partially underneath
her. We were not hurt by this fall. We were laying prone at the feet of
all these children, who did not seem perturbed with us being at their feet.
I got up from the floor first. My companion was still on the floor, resting
in the Spirit. The children did not seem to think what happened unusual. I
seemed to know my work was done, and commenced efforts to leave this church.
I awoke.
INTERPRETATION:
Overall, I believe I represent the New Testament Apostolic Order of
prophetic intercessors, apostles and prophets which will be richly blest
(breathtakingly beautiful umbrella), commence immediately (I had just
purchased that umbrella December 22, 1999), and welcomed by others in the
churches to which each of us is called (he joyously greeted me). Those
greeting us will think we are returning to the fold, having mended our ways,
so they will be excited to see us. (I wondered why I was here, because I
never had any desire to ever return to this particular church because of
their focus on rituals and praying to and venerating dead people to
intercede for them.)
The woman who parks her car close to mine represents some of the existing
authority within this church, which is quite dark (she has a black umbrella,
and she says "First, let me minister to you.")
I believe this dream is telling all New Testament Apostolic Order of
prophetic intercessors, apostles and prophets they will feel compelled to
attend particular churches or situations, and will be led by our dear Holy
Spirit, even though they might feel uncomfortable. (I was feeling quite
uncomfortable; but, I knew I must attend this church at this time.)
Thereupon, although folks in the various churches will think everything will
continue as usual, and will attempt to remain in charge (first, let me
minister to you), we will immediately respond as directed by our dear Holy
Spirit. (I immediately reached down and put my hands around her ankles,
commencing to pray for her.)
Psalm 119:105 Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light for my path.
What is interesting, is that in addition to my dream, a local pastor gave
the same message last Sunday and a woman who ministers to leaders in another
country, gave the same message in her local meeting. I attended her meeting
and continually could see that my dream was a template for what she shared.
When a prophetic friend told me about the theme for the local pastor, we
agreed my dream again was a template for what he talked about. So, just as
you've taught us that our God gives 3 scenes for emphasis, my dream and two
local folks giving the same message, emphasizes the importance of our God's
message through this dream.
What I am not sure about is whether this dream is for ritualistic
denominations in general, or is a specific dream for a specific local
church. Either way, the message could be the same. I believe the message
of the dream would be that ritualistic churches will be visited by an
itinerate New Testament apostolic and/or prophetic person, who will bring
them the pure Word which will commence their healing.
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The interpreter in this posting on D&V List No.394 is Marilyn Delpino and not Lara Phelps. Most humble apologies!
* Re: D&V List No.393 All of a sudden this woman marched in. She was
full of confidence and immediately took control. Without even realizing
it the whole chapel area had become packed with people. This woman, as
she strode in and used words like God and power and more of you in this
room. It was subtle, but to me it had an obvious twist, it was not the
God of the bible rather it was new age with demonic twist. She would use
some phrases like come holy spirit etc. and all the while talking about
the God within. If you were not in tune you would have very easily
thought she was okay. Dream by Rev Roger Gable on 5th Feb 2000 and
interpretation by Marilyn Delpino.
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 15:18:49 -0800
From: "Rev Roger Gamble" <pastordaystarreaching-out.org>
Organization: Forerunner Ministries International
As I have thought and prayed throughout the time afterwards I feel that the
women that strode in represented a spirit of Delilah. I have saw how this
spirit has attacked many people in ministry and before they knew it they
had gone down the road of compromise.
When I recall the impact that he (the clown) had made on all the people I
would consider him to be a servant of God.[ a real salty person] Since I was the
one that had the dream not that I would go by feelings but it would be more
like the clown had done His job and now it was up to others to step forward
and complete the mission. The hesitation may be a sign for those in leadership and indeed the whole body today. Its time to step forward and allow the real God to shine through them instead of staying back and being quiet. As an evangelist I am always amazed that many believers have never at any time even shared Jesus with one person. It is the job of every believer to do the works of Jesus not just those in leadership. As I think back from the removal in prayers in school etc many believers have been silent. Its time to wake up and go forward doing the works of Jesus. I don't see how anyone can call themselves Christian if they never do the stuff.
Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of
God. KJV
Gods Spirit does not just sit there leaving the Job to someone else. He gets involved. There is a cost to getting involved but on the other hand there
is a bigger cost when we don't.
God Bless
In His Service
Rev Roger Gamble
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